Isak Jansson

I see people are saying would you really want to pay x amount for this person or someone so young.

If the answer by Celtic is no then we have to STOP looking at these players then. Its an absolute * waste of our time.

You can't fleece teams anymore its not 15-20 years ago. Teams know what their players are worth.

If we did bid around 3mil for a player who's going for 10mil its an embarrassment to our club.

If we dont want to spend the money then start looking elsewhere.

 

Yeah, not a good look especially when we've just shifted a winger for £17m and have far more sat in the bank.

 

I'm not sure. Haven't seen enough of them.

But by all accounts we put in a bid of 3m euros for him when they're looking for three times that. It's just awful optics yet again. If we want him and think he's the answer, pay the going rate.

 

Source: Peter from Thorntonhall

 

Doesn't take much to quote me and reply to me directly instead of being passive aggressive. Given your general outlook on here, it's not entirely surprising you avoid that so you're not made to look like a bit of an idiot, like you did last summer.

But let's look at the crux of your argument. I'm not saying we shouldn't pay that for someone like Jansson. I clearly asked a question. It's subjective. I wouldn't pay it for multiple reasons. One of the reasons being I believe there to be better value out there for that sort of money. No one is suggesting we 'fleece' teams. Whether you like it or not, teams will attempt to get the best deal possible, both the selling club and the buying club. A player is only worth what a team will pay for him.

I'm highly sceptical of the bid of £3m. I just don't believe we bid that for him. I'm not even sure we actually bid for him. Mark Hendry was the only one running with that story, as far as I'm aware and any other outlets that ran with the story were using his original story as the source. So, whether we actually bid for him or not is another story entirely. It's no different to Atalanta bidding £14m for Matt O'Riley, only to see us sell him the same window for double that. Clubs are chancers. Say it is true, we bid a similar amount to what we did with Kuhn less than 18 months ago. So again, is it a completely unfair bid, all things considered? I don't think it is. The fact a French team have come in and bid £8m for him, fair * to Rapid. They get an incredible deal for a player they paid £500k for less than 18 months ago. I don't think we should be paying anywhere near that though.

When you say we should stop looking at these players. Like, what players are you saying we stop looking at? Wingers? Fast wingers? What do you even mean. Celtic identified a player, they allegedly bid low for that player and I think it's likely we walked away when Rapid told us what they wanted, especially since it looks like we made progress on the Balikwisha deal literally a couple of days later. You, and others, get so angry and wound up over something that we don't even know if it's true. What if Celtic used the Jansson bid as cover to get Antwerp to lower their price for Balikwisha and it worked? Would you give Celtic any sort of credit then? Highly doubtful.

So bizarre. Like, people just love hating on anything Celtic do or diminish everything. Why do you even watch the club when it gives you so much anger? Stuff that comes out in the rags is horseshit 99% of the time. We all * know that. They want to release a story. Yet, some in here get so wound up over the very thing they say is *. It's so * weird. We will be linked with hundreds of players in a window and you'll be lucky if we sign 2% of them.

"If we don't want to spend the money, start looking elsewhere"... as I mentioned above, it looks like we've done that. Antwerp are willing to do a deal with Baliwisha on better terms, if you believe the media over there so let's see what happens. It's the 9th of July.

 

He had one good season last year where he scored 9 and assisted 4 in 33 games.

We seem to have been massively under in our valuation of him, but I don’t see €10m player there.

I think we will bring in a better winger before the end of the window.

 

Honestly mate, yeah I've seen your reply but seen loads with people saying that's too much or he's too young. And that's fine but if we think that then why are we scouting these players?

My reply wasn't directed at your personally.

 

I've raed more of your response. You say most of the stuff is horse *. It just happens with Celtic more than most teams aye?

Our ex head of recruitment who probably wasn't great has come out and said he was basically challenged with finding international players for under a set budget. He also said he tried to get us Nkuku and Diaby and we said no. That was bullshit as well?

Rodgers left us last time and has said on many occasions that the recruitment was a joke. Was that bullshit as well?

McGinn, Toney and many others went elsewhere as we * around time and time again. Kvistgaarden went to Norwich after we watched him for over 2 seasons. That not Celtics fault either then?

We * around like a team who are on their *.

See the odd thing happening then aye it could be rubbish but see when it happens multiple times every single transfer window then I'm more inclined to think that we are the problem.

 

Im not overly fussed anyway, £200k to £9m in 20 odd games, * dat.

 

I think the problem is if we actually bid.

If we didn't, then I'm fine with this, he does look good but I think we can get better for €10 million.

If we did bid around €3 million for him, then that's poor from us, either give them what they want or move on, going in with a bid that low isn't great.

Again, that's if we done it, by all accounts that comes from the same source that said the €10 million valuation was rubbish, so I'd lean towards it being fibs.

 

Told ye mate am not being a * about it but we will not back Rodgers this window with him leaving not a chance

 

doesn’t matter if Rodgers is leaving. We still signing decent players for who ever come after him.
Sad to say looks like Huns going win title this year. They seem be recruiting well and splashing cash and paying big wages too
They see champion league money if they win title and taking risk

 

Yes, most of it is horseshit. We are linked with hundreds of players a year. The vast majority of it will be bullshit.

How do you know it only happens to Celtic? Are you that invested in other clubs where you know the consistent transfer rumours and links for multiple clubs? I certainly don't. Most clubs have problems signing players. Some get it done quickly. Do you know who they are? Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Real Madrid, PSG... y'know, the richest clubs in the world where no one is turning the chance to join them down. Everybody else? It's pretty much exactly the same. My pals a West Ham fan and he has more to say about his own club than any other when it comes to recruitment and their failure to adequately deal with transfers. So no, it's not a problem that's unique to Celtic.

On the Mark Lawwell £4m/International experience issue. We've moved past that. Ange essentially got what he wanted and then Rodgers changed the script after his first summer when he could see it wasn't working. Setting parameters up for recruitment, especially when it comes to players with International experience was silly. You seem to be under the impression that I agree or support everything the club/recruitment team do and I certainly don't. Just to clarify, I don't think it was Mark Lawwell who dropped that story. It was a previous South American scout who is now back at the club. I believe his name was Mark Cooper but someone on here could point out whether that was true or not. Either way, it was a stupid parameter to meet and it made very little sense from a sporting point of view. The whole basis of the international experience was for work permit issues, though. Especially when we were looking over at South America etc. There was a whole host of players from Brazil and Argetina that we could hace snapped up but couldn't because of work permit issues.

We will always lose out on players for a variety of different reasons and some of them will look incredibly silly and some will look smart. We forget about the players we missed out on and went on to do * all because it never gets written about in this country. Remember when we were all against signing Ardon Jashari? Silly to think of that now, isn't it. Signed for Club Brugges and now on his way to Milan for £30m. Remember when everyone was shouting for Albert Gronbaek to replace Matt O'Riley? He failed at Rennes, failed at Southampton... looks silly now, doesn't it? There isn't an exact science to signing players. There are so many different factors that come into play. Some that involve us, some that involve our league, some that involve our fans. You're looking at signing players so simplistically when it's anything but simplistic. It's incredibly difficult and even more so for a club like ours, a Giant of European/World football, stuck and hampered by the domestic scene we play in. Does that mean we shouldn't be able to sign an upgrade on Greg Taylor or Liam Scales? Of course not. That should have been addressed years ago but it's not like we haven't spent money on those positions and it's not like the players coming in haven't had a decent enough pedigree, like Bernabei and Trusty.

Rodgers left last time because a Premier League team came in for him and he decided to leave. We could have bought McGinn, Schar and Castagne and he still would have walked. Was he happy with the recruitment? Absolutely not. He was extremely unhappy about it but it would never have changed him walking out the door for Leicester. Nothing was going to change his mind, especially since he had literally won everything in his 2 and a half years here. So, again. It's just not true that he walked out because of the recruitment. He walked out because a team in the Premier League offered him far more money, a far bigger budget and a chance to manage in the most watched league in the world, again. It's really that simple.

Again, you're picking out individual players like McGinn and Toney and now Kvistgaarden. We all know what happened with McGinn. It was beyond a joke. On Toney, it wasnt like we didn't want to pay the money. We paid similar for Ajeti. Lennon and the recruitment team made the wrong choice. Toney went to Brentford for £6m and we bought Ajeti for £5.5m. It had nothing to do with the money. In fact, didn't the owner of Peterborough come out and say publicly that he tried to get even more money from us than what they eventually sold him for? We've been linked with Kvistgaarden for 2 years and ultimately decided not to progress with the deal for whatever reason. Aren't the club in the best position to make that call, given they've watched him for 2 years?

The bottom line is that the club will make mistakes and those mistakes won't be any more or any less than the vast majority of other clubs. What we need to do is get the scouting network and the recruitment to a significant standard with a footballing setup that rivals the very best of clubs in similar situations to ourselves. So, the likes of the big Portuguese teams, PSV, Ajax, Salzburg, Copenhagen, the big Belgian teams. We significantly fall behind those teams and that needs to be addressed. From a pure running of the club, point of view though? 53,000 season tickets, 10,000 waiting list for season tickets, record sponsorship deals, record number titles... something those clubs mentioned above would absolutely die for. So, yes. We need to upgrade certain parts of our football club but we are miles ahead of other clubs in other areas.

 

https://www.skrapid.at/de/startseit...ansson-vorzeitig-aus-trainingslager-abgereist

In consultation with SK Rapid's sporting management, Isak Jansson has left SK Rapid's summer training camp in Freistadt, Upper Austria, early. The Swedish winger was given permission to leave for talks with a club abroad interested in signing him.



This means the 23-year-old Scandinavian will no longer be seen at the public training session scheduled for this Wednesday at 4:00 p.m. in Freistadt.

 

I disagree with huns mate.

They are signing championship journeymen.

There is no UCL guarantee for league winners this season either it 1 or more qualifiers in 2026.

 

This is why I don't bother watching YT video's of players until they sign. Makes it less disappointing when they sign for Doncaster Rovers.

 

The SK Rapid records a new record exit! According to exclusive Sky information, Isak Jansson will join the French Ligue 1 at OGC Nice.

Rapid is to receive a transfer fee in the double-digit million range for the first time. This should amount to 10 million euros. As Rapid announced on Wednesday morning, the Swede left the training camp in Freistadt to fix the transfer.

This is Jansson Rapids' new record sale. The most lucrative departures of the Green and Whites to date were Maximilian Wöber (to Ajax Amsterdam) and Robert Beric (to AS St. Etienne) - both each poured 7.5 million euros into the Rapid coffers.

Jansson was hired by Rapid in the summer of 2024 for 250,000 euros after he was able to convince as a loan player in the months before. In his one and a half years at the Rapid, the 23-year-old played 45 competitive matches so far, in which he contributed ten goals and seven assists. Now Rapid sells the Swedish for around forty times the purchase price.

 

Nothing wrong with signing for Donny Rovers lol