Sondre Orjasaeter

If that's the case, then I understand why we might be more keen on Balikwisha.

By all accounts he's wants to come here and is a bit more experienced, less than half the price too.

I'd prefer Orjasaeter but aye, at £11 million, if that's the case, I'd be a bit more hesitant.

 

Apparently Moro agreed a deal with Ajax but they are struggling to agree a fee for him. I seem to recall Ajax was his preference when we were linked in January

 

I don't think they'll get 11 or even close to that just now....from anyone..

 

Could likely get Moro for less

 

Moro less

 

£11M for an unproven player from a lowly Norweigan league ? They are at the kid.

This is another Kvistgaarden scam of bumping the price up, when they know some serious teams are interested.

 

No way he’s worth 11 million. Problem is we over paid for both Engles and Idah so clubs are going to try their hand now.

 

Come on, man. This has nothing to do with Idah or Engels, this is a club using the fact that their player has multiple interested parties to get the highest possible price.

We overpaid for those two, but people claiming this is going to affect our upcoming transfers and was some disaster are getting * boring. Both had okay seasons, and we've spent a lot of money in the past on far worse players who had zero impact at all.

We just signed a Swedish international who is probably going to walk into our team for around £1m. What impact did the Engels or Idah deal have on that?

 

I only hope that (like Kvistgaarten?) we didn't miss the opportunity earlier due to procrastination or micro haggling.

If player didn't want to come, or wanted to wait - fair enough.
But if we could have secured both but refused to pay a now much lower fee v current valuation, that would be unforgivable.

Again, well never know - which drives fans mad.

 

Could be the same for Lennon Miller, bid rejected but if we really wanted it done I'm sure we could have in January

 

This thread riddled with people thinking it's the 90's again.

Smaller teams can (and will) command higher fees now for their players and Celtic know this.

We either be willing to pay these fees or we stop wasting our time scouting the players. It's really this simple.

 

It is got everything to do with them, like other sides spending big money on players and teams know we have money in the bank and trying their hand.

which is fine because we always want top dollar for our players.

Where didn’t say it’s been a disaster? Think you are overreacting here, I couldn’t care less about us overpaying, Idah paid that back with the champions league money and to be fair I still think we would make a profit on the Engles.

But we did overpay and that’s fine things like that happen. Where did I say about their seasons? I didn’t, again trying to put words in my mouth.

The Swedish international has just over 6 months left on his current deal, pretty poor comparison really.

 

Maybe I was a bit harsh in my comment, it wasn’t solely directed at you but there’s a constant stream of people saying the same thing and it’s frustrating.

But yeah, I disagree with the premise that the Idah and Engels deals will lead to clubs wanting us to pay them more.. the reason for them charging more is because their player has serious interest from other clubs.

 

All three could have gotten them for less than £15m combined anywhere from 12-18 months ago.

Today, would cost us twice that.

Folk will continue to defend the board, but that in a nutshell is how wasteful and annoying our transfer process is. "monitoring" forever getting the best of us.

 

People don't defend the board for the sake of it. You're simplifying very detailed transfer negotiations, which have multiple different factors that stop us signing deals.

Ironically enough, people like yourself will bash the board relentlessly and then give them absolutely no credit when they get a player like Nygren for a fraction of his value.

 

I and others will applaud the club/board for good recruitment - and we are particularly good when fees are below a certain value, say £4-5M.
Selling players - the board are feckin genius!

When fees climb above £5M, we seem to take a very different approach - in kicks what seems to be a much, much longer process or (my speculation) chronic procrastination/penny pinching/inefficiencies/incompetence.
We do unnecessarily lose out on good players within our reach - that's without dispute surely.
It's not bashing the board, it's simply voicing our frustration that we should be much, much better at this by now.

Whether that's the case with this lad and other high value players recently linked, we will never know...
but it happens far too often to be without some substance.
Brendan twice has called out the need to learn from previous windows, so he's not happy either and he's pretty close to things (I hope)
We need to be better at this - it's that simple.

 

They also get hounded for overpaying in somes cases (Idah and Engels the latest). There's a very narrow window for them to get this stuff right.

 

No club in world football gets even close to it all right. Some posters on here are actually mental with it.

When * start spewing about conspiracy theories of us deliberately not strengthening to stay close to the huns so it's competitive, you're just dealing with utter weapons.

 

There are some who don't applaud the club or the board for good recruitment, though. That's the point. You can literally name the same posters on here. The poster I replied to was complaining about the speed of our recruitment 2/3 days ago. We aren't even into * July, yet.

Do you think that it's a different approach when players get above £5m or do you think there are other factors? You're talking about Kvistgaarden, previously. He's got interest from Germany and has done since January. So, do you think he just ignores everyone else so he can speak to us? Of course he doesn't. He wants to look at all his options. His agents will be telling him to wait to get the best deal, Brondby will be putting our huge fees to sell him and then there will be negotiations, with more clubs than ourselves. So, it's not as easy as saying "we take a different approach" because we don't. We want to sign a player, a player the manager wants. That then has to be balanced with the time and the price.

Idah is the best example of this. We want Idah, Norwich want too much money. Rodgers wants him. Everyone was saying the same thing. Offer them a final deal around £6m/£7m and if they don't accept it, walk away. Well then, you're going onto the managers second choice now. If he comes in and doesn't do well, Idah gets an £8m move to Como or something in Italy, bags in 18 goals and our second choice barely hits the net here, everyone would be complaining that we didn't pay the money for the managers first choice.

The club need to find the balance a bit better. I slagged the club off for the Bernardo deal, last season. That should have been the easiest deal to make. Bernardo wanted to come, Rodgers wanted him but we were apart on the fee. It's just the fee that needs to be negotiated but it took far too long. Could the club be better at it? Yeah, probably. It's not as easy as people make out, though. It's an incredibly difficult balancing act that very few clubs in world football get right and even less so when they're operating under financial limitations, like we do.

 

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