Atmosphere today = Fantastic, THE SONG DEBATE..

Excellent anology.

UEFA are talking and talking and talking all the time, but they actually don't do anything at all. people get killed in some european places during football games, flares, violence and riots everywhere etc. there are far worse problems than "songs" they have to deal with.

 

Why fankyou

So since they've not totally cracked down on it then it's OK? Wrong view imo.

Just because they've done nothing about it so far doesn't mean they can't. For all we know they could sitting adding each case to a list of complaints and then hit each club very hard and we wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

Like I said before, go along, sing your songs if you wish, but don't go crying about it when you get banned or the club gets fined/disqualified.

 

Did they actually quote what songs they consider sectarian? thats my point. ie. we feel this list of songs are, and these ones here arent.

 

I think everyone should decide for himself if he wants to sing or not. if you don't want, just don't do it. I find it wrong when people do * all but tell people, that want to create an atmosphere, to basically shut up or to change their songs.

as I said, UEFA have to deal with far more important problems than some songs and if they start fining and disqualifying football teams, there will be almost no one left in the champs league for example.

it's a bit like downloading. the law and rules ain't really accurate (as far as I know there is no list of secretarian songs [other question: which ones we sing are against other religions?]), the country could fine you, but it's not likely they will.

 

They stated 'Racism and/or discrimination' so make what you will of that. Wether or not you deem a song acceptable or not has no bearing on anything. If they deem a song as descrimination/racist towards others then we simply have to accept that, wether or not you agree with it doesn't matter.

The only thing I can suggest you do is contact Celtic Park and ask what song are acceptable and which are not.

 

Sorry to disappoint you mate but I do my fair share to create an atmosphere at games, simply by attending every home game. I sing songs which are related to my club and that are not offensive or deemed unacceptable by UEFA, FIFA and the SFA. If you think I'm going to tell someone in the ground to stop singing a song your wrong. If they want to sing it, go ahead, but there are plenty of other songs they can sing. I'd have no sympathy for them though if they were cuffed and taken out of stadium and told not to come back.

Like I said before, sing all the unacceptable songs you want, but when you get banned, or the clubs gets hammered for it, don't whine about it, you knew the rules.

I sing all the Irish Rebels songs in the pubs and on the way to Glasgow. Inside the ground I sing Celtic songs.

 

I know your right in that Celtic dont want fans singing it, but in terms of fifa and uefa they should be clear on what is discrimination/racism in a song.

What if we sang trodding on the winepress by bob marley, its a rebel song right, as are other marley numbers. Its against english oppresion, but it would probably be ok to sing it.

 

fair play for your opinion and I actually support this view if you are against those songs. as I said, let the people sing (live and let live) and we both seem to agree on this. you didn't disappoint me, because I was not talking about particular users

 

No one wants people to shut up mate.

All i ask is u dont sing Pro-IRA songs.

Dont think thats too much to ask eh?

 

Aidan mcanespie and many other ballads aren't pro IRA they are songs of oppresion or at most rebel, there are only a few provisional IRA songs. the role of honour being one.
What about Kevin Barry and boys of the old brigade, they have hee haw to do with the proivisionals.

 

As I said before, contact Celtic Park with a list of songs and let them decide which is acceptable and which is unacceptable. I'm not here to make that decision.

 

Its fifa and uefa i was discussing but no bother m8.

 

OK. Do you think you'd have more of a chance of getting a reply from UEFA/FIFA or Celtic Park? I would assume that UEFA/FIFA have spoken to Celtic about this matter and put across their point on which songs are OK and which are not. That's why I said to contact CP. If you want to contact UEFA/FIFA too, then go head

I'd personally like to know too. I was gutted when they brought the ruling in, but I accept it.

 

But its about an Irish kid being 'allegedly' deliberately shot by British Soldiers, accuses Britain of 'well-renowned lies' and the final verse mocks a '*' british soldier that slips and dies.

Sorry, no place for that at a Celtic game.

 

I've no intention of contacting anyone, i was just pointing out that fifa and uefa would have trouble fining clubs etc. unless they proved the songs were racist or discrimatory, which rebel songs clearly arent.

Celtic didn't act on this issue to appease fifa or uefa by the way.

 

Maybe, however that doesn't make it pro provisional IRA.
Who does it offend apart from the english soldiers who did it?

 

Why are you still discussing this? It's not your decision to make. You ddin't make the rule so you have little to no say on the matter. It's up to the powers that be to determine the songs which are OK and which are not.

I'm from Scotland and I sing Celtic songs. A lot of the songs are irrelevant to football or the club, that's what people are saying. Wether or not they're offensive is a different argument.

 

Are you refering to me?
If so what are you on about?
Highlight my statement if there is anything you disagree with or whatever.

 

Its a politically provocative song that has nothing to do with Celtic, so why sing it?