Ange Postecoglou

I thought he was a bit like that here too. We had Strachan and Kennedy who had a good relationship with the players though.

He has that failed Hibs * as part of coaching team at Spurs .

 

I may be wrong but I think shots that hit the post or bar aren't considered 'on target'. Bizarrely.

 

He had Chris Davies in his first season down there too. That's a huge loss this season.

 

You can hit the post and the ball go in? So does that mean it hasn’t hit the target because the ball hit the post or crossbar first? In my own opinion due to that fact if it hits the post/crossbar it should count as on target as that’s exactly what it is

 

If the ball hits the frame of the goal and goes in, it's a goal..

A shot off the frame of goal has never been counted on target, as it's slightly off target.. this has always been the case..

 

Eh I’m not denying it’s not the case? I’m saying it shouldn’t be. Cos it hits the goal, frame or not it’s still the goals

 

Only if you're playing bar/post..

 

If a keeper dives to his left or right and saves a ball millimetres past the post that’s on target but in reality possibly hitting the post or going wide.

Splitting hairs here , I know hitting the woodwork is not classed as a shot on target which is not right for me.

Massive difference when you see a sebo shot to smashing one off the crossbar lol.

 

Well, you have to draw the line somewhere and I guess that when you define something (in this case, a goal) with a frame, then you kind of have the choice to include the frame in that definition or not. And to some extent, that decision is arbitrary.

So it could be legitimate to see "on target" as including the posts and the crossbar or not, depending on what you want to do with that information. For example if you want a measure of how close the team came to scoring or how many times the team came close to scoring, then maybe it could make sense to include the frame, to include the crossbar in the posts.

However, there are 3 reasons why this is not very convincing. Firstly, we have so many better statistical measures these days such as xG. They do a better job of capturing how many times the team came close to scoring or how close the team came to scoring than changing the "shots on target" measure would. Secondly, the most natural and simple way to do it would be to follow the scoring system and the scoring system doesn't include the frame: you don't get a goal or a point for hitting the crossbar or the post so, unless there's some special reason for including the post or the crossbar, it just makes more sense to define "shots on target" as shots that would have resulted in a goal without intervention from the goalkeeper or a defender. Thirdly, I think that's the way it's always been defined and it could be confusing if we start changing that without a good reason.

 

Pretty good one

 

Has Ange been sacked or did he hit the bar ?

 

From what I’ve seen here, he hit his sack aff the bar mate.

Musta been sore.

 

Crikey !!!!

 

It’s who we are mate

 

Not much sympathy to be honest.. as much as I appreciate what he did for us what did he really expect to do at spuds..

When spuds finally sack him i don't think he'll have a problem getting a new club but I doubt it will be in the EPL or at a club like us that offers him Champions league football..

 

If a shot goes in it was on target

If a shot misses it was off target

 

Jota left for £200K a week, Ange leaving for over £100K a week to try his methods in one of Europe's top domestic leagues, nobody can blame him in my opinion

 

He did nothing wrong. I'd love to see him back here one day if it doesn't work out in England.

 

Not true, if a shot hits the post and rebounds (was never going in) but the keeper saves it it’s a shot on target

If a keeper saves the ball but it’s miles off target it’s a shot on target

The rules sound simple but there’s so many grey areas.

they use direction of travel for own goal rulings but don’t do the same for shots on target which is weird. Cos like you say that should surely mean off target if the balls going wide and the keeper saves it