Celtic park- is it time to increase capacity and refurb stadium.

Looked into coming for a CL game this year and what they were charging and what they were offering didn’t attract me to buy. Hospitality seat, with food and drinks included at an offsite location was all that was left.

I looked at the price and was hmmm, if the hospitality offering was decent I was in… but it was a * hospitality offering that was offsite. I couldn’t believe it when I looked into it further, the food options were poor and it was like someone had been stuck looking for a hospitality event space at the last minute.

Celtic in desperate need for better facilities.

 

Turn it into football Mecca of northwest of Britain


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For a number of years, I’ve pondered how the club would expand paradise, and in particular how they would move existing season ticket holders from the main stand, to increase the overall capacity.

This film clearly shows the club doesn’t need to relocate for a season, or demolish the current main stand.

Obviously there would be inconvenience, temporary disruption and costs attached. Again fans have spoken about other areas of the ground requiring work, but I would really love to see the main stand expanded.

 

Aye, it's definitely something we nedd to look at.. think with Liverpool's it was probably easier as it's an 'end' stand rather than a main stand like ours.. with the changing rooms and restaurants etc..

We have bought so much land around the stadium the longer term solution is probably a new stadium.. but we should explore what Liverpool have done..

 

Nah just leave it way it is invest all money in team no more disco lights and what have you.

 

Hearts copied same idea and built main stand over existing


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Liverpool did it with their main stand aswell


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Cool, didn't know that.. interesting

 

It’s all down to the ambition of the board when can wanted to redo and build sixty thousand seater he was told wouldn’t work wouldn’t sell 60 thousand season tickets the culture for season tickets wasn’t their …. We all know how that worked out


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I think the whole premise is absurd TBH. Unless the birthrate changes, we're going to need to reduce the capacity in the next few decades, not increase it.

 

Aslong as theirs a waiting list it’s absolutley viable people are living longer than 30 years ago and theirs such a thing as immigration


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You keep saying this mate.. the population coming down doesn't necessarily equate to us not filling Celtic Park by an extra 10k..

We have a substantial waiting list and it's very difficult to get tickets for home games..

And it's about modernising the old main stand..

Even if we didn't fill it every week, having that extra capacity would be utilised frequently..

 

Can't see an increase in capacity unless it's by some major building work on our old main stand

 

I live in England, so I'm more aware of immigration than you can probably imagine if you're in Scotland: it's not the solution you think it is, but that takes us into HP&R territory.

As for living longer than before, that's not a future dividend that will keep crowds high in the coming decades. When I see closeups of the crowds at CP and compare the ages of the faces I see there to when I went to games in the 90s, it seems clear that we have already started burning through that dividend. It's not one for the future. I don't have figures for us specifically, but the statistics for UK football as a whole are scary (the EPL figures are much worse than the SPL ones as they are also driven by costs as well as demographics). The Scottish figures are much less dire than the English ones (the EPL is truly screwed), but in 2016, there was already a huge bulge in the 35-49 bracket. https://www.supporters-direct.scot/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/survey-pdf.pdf


Note that life expectancy has actually been falling for several years now too.

 

I feel like the population gap will be filled by migrants. Celtic should anticipate that and try to get them signed up as supporters

 

I think a refurb is long overdue. Not sure how much could be done without significant structural work but the stadium is looking and feeling dated. There must be some way of spending a bit bring the stadium into the 21st century without knocking down and rebuilding.

As regards a brand new stand I really can't see it. We are riding high at the moment but a downturn in form and we could be back to the Ronny Deila era size of crowds. Besides derby games and big euro nights, I don't see the revenue from long term demand matching the outlay. I also think it would need a ton of work around local infrastructure, transport links, etc, to support an extra 15-20k people.

On the subject of forecasting future crowds, it's very hard to do. But we saw less interest when Rangers were liquidated and I also sense there will eventually be less interest if we dominate so much we push past 10 in a row onto 12, 15, etc. Ideally the sweet spot is an active challenge and success more often than not, but that's very hard to predict. 60k feels about right to me to be honest.

 

I’d like to see stadium expansion. However, for league games the problem isn’t capacity. It’s that 20,000 people often aren’t turning up for games.

https://open.substack.com/pub/forth...ish-cup-goes?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

People are hoarding season tickets and deciding which games they want to show up to. They can’t be bothered turning up to games that aren’t big enough and the atmosphere ends up being utterly *.

I’m completely stumped as to why a resale system hasn’t been put in place. A competent developer team could do something like that very easily. Hearts have one ffs.

I’ve been on the waiting list for years. A resale system would put money back in ST holders pockets, give a bit extra to the club in the form of fees, and give more people the chance to attend games. It’s a no brainer.

 

35-up is always gonna be the ones with a constant season ticket as by then family and buying house has been achieved something that would normally make someone sit and wait to decide to get a season ticket times are always changing year 2001 when we beat rangers 6-2 full house a good chunk of that crowd is no longer with us theirs always someone else to take the place


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Don’t mention migrants to RR or his mask will slip.

 

Should be getting In contact with nfl about them using stadium for a game before Newcastle does

Look how they helped fund what Tottenham done

We can slag hearts all day long but they just put a hotel in their main stand and are reaping benefits from being close to the rugby and concerts …. AC/DC this summer room in tynecastle is 701 quid on the day …. Tottenham sell 120 thousand pints of lager a game … probs waiting for that van to be lifted knowing our board


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