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[Official TC Thread] January Transfer Window 2025 - 3rd Feb 11pm Deadline

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Callum McGregor, Jan 1, 2025.

Discuss January Transfer Window 2025 - 3rd Feb 11pm Deadline in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Made me wonder now, those defending this window and the board by using the KT deal as a win for the winter window, will they use it again for the summer window to cover up the inevitable short comings we have then?

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  2. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Rodgers comments there still go back to the kyogo saga developing over months.

    I still don't get why if we knew in say November there was a solid chance of him leaving, get working on his replacement and have him out the door as soon as we could in January.

    Maybe we did do that, but surely it'd have led to someone being in and confirmed within 3 months.
     
  3. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Done a quick search for "sack board" interesting how many threads there are in relation to it from 2005-07-09-10-11-12-13-17-19 and more recent activity that span many threads covering PL, Desmond, Nicholson etc as well.


    This isn't a one off event with this transfer window, this is two decades of nonsense.

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  4. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    Anything on Christopher McKay Chief Financial Officer
     
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    Id say they did. But the board looked at the points lead in the league and downgraded the urgency of getting a replacement in this window. If the league was tight - they may have spent a couple of extra million on securing one of their targets. Or not sold Kyogo at all.

    Selling Kyogo at all in January is still mysterious for me. The timing was odd and the move makes no sense for him. I appreciate he wanted to move on, but to move to a club in a relegation battle while we are chasing a treble and still in the champions league does not make sense to me. He could have enjoyed 4 short months here. Played a couple of huge champions league games and left with a treble and a heros send off. There must be more to it, but on the surface its a strange one. Im not convinced the plan all along was to sell him in Jan.
     
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  6. Luis1967 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Bar Kvistgaarden who was far to expensive the rest of the strikers we were linked with were pretty uninspiring so not to fussed to miss out on any of them.

    Would some class just any striker we sign as a Kyogo replacement? Signings are always a gamble so we couldn’t guarantee any players is gonna get 20+ goals a season. I personally in the summer would want someone early to mid 20’s with at least 2 pretty solid seasons scoring. £5-10m bracket with sell on value.
     
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    You usually have to pay a premium to get players in Jan because their clubs dont want to lose them mid season. The guys we were enquiring about like Kvistgaarden and Strelec were demanding big fees. I think the board have decided not to pay the premium in this window because we have a healthy lead and look to add in Summer when they expect to have to pay less.

    We should have at least got in a serviceable striker to act as a back up / cover though if they werent prepared pay for a permanent replacement for Kyogo. Its an unneccessary gamble.
     
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    The sensible thing, taking just these two names, would be to take sterelec on loan with an option to buy at £7m (or there abouts?) and see how he fits in.
    In the mean time, be quite literally watching every minute of kvistgaarden until summer rolls around (although aren't we pre season for them just now and it's midseason come summer?).

    Where we then analysis the * out of both players stats and attributes come summer time and either agree the guy option of one, or accept he's not worth the money and take the calculated risk on kvistgaarden.

    Assuming just these two names are involved.

    But, and no one truly knows, it seems we don't bother with that sort of logical approach to signings and we aren't willing to do that level or work.

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    I don't think come the summer we need a 3rd centre back. If we keep what we have then that is fine in my opinion. A defensive midfielder has been cried about for years. We aren't going to buy one as long as McGregor is here. How long before people accept that? At best we might bring in a long term replacement like Lennon Miller who can also play for us now further up. Left back will be KT and if Schlupp does well him.

    Agreed we need a striker but again another winger I wouldn't be 100% on. Someone with potential maybe.
     
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    So effectively you're advocating just punting a player anytime they ask to leave and then waiting for the right player to come around regardless of how long it takes? If we'd known for months, that's plenty of time to arrange a replacement. Whether it's a permanent signing, a loan to buy, or a loan to cover until the summer. Leaving the team short is never an option. We should have had someone ready to go before we agreed to sell Kyogo, and if it fell through we shouldn't have entertained any offers. That's how most clubs operate.
     
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    Loving the honesty from Brendan.
    So there IS a competence issue buying players - as many of us suspected all along.

    Selling we are great, but that's easy when you hold all the cards.
    But buying when you don't, we have been found severely wanting on more than one level.

    Summer window just got amped to the absolute max for everyone at the club, if it's not successful then consequences will be significant for the board and I fear the manager.
    Let's hope the 'review' unearths the issues and the board are brave enough to put them right.
     
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    Stralec agent and also his dad saying we where willing to go to £8m and Slovan added £1.5m on and wanted same as we paid for idah and we walked away
     
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    Personally mate, I think the board did try to recruit another striker. But circumstances dictated how much over the odds in terms of value for money they were prepared to pay. The healthy lead in the league made them reluctant to pay a premium on players that whose clubs are holding out for max price mid season.

    I dont really know what the situation with Kyogo was. I dont think it was necessarily planned to sell him in Jan. The club knew he wanted away, but I think were looking to move him on at end of season. I think an un-anticipated bid came in from Rennes for money that the board felt was too good to turn down given he wanted away anyway, and given we practically have the league in the bag. The fact it could be used to smooth a deal with Jota coming the other way probably helped as well. Would they have sold him if we were neck in neck with Rangers in the league - personally I doubt it. But the circumstances of being so far ahead in the league meant for them it was business worthwhile.

    Overall we got Jota in, replaced one loaned LB with another, secured Tierney for next season and manged to move some fringe guys on for a financial boost. So in that regard its not disastrous - again given the circumstances of the league this year. I think they should have secured a loan deal striker to act as back up. They are taking a risk there. But hopefully thats leveraged against getting one of our preferred targets in the Summer at a better value for money deal.

    January is more often geared towards recruiting with focus on the remainder of the season. In that regard there wasnt massive urgency this particular season. Summer is when you would expect to see longer term recruitment happening. If that doesnt happen this Summer then I think definately there should be finger pointing.
     
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    I think that's what I'd want as well.

    This is where the trust has to be placed in the scouting team to identify and the money men to get these deals done. That's where I have zero trust.
     
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    On a positive note we are going to be looking really strong come the summer window . Jota fully up to speed , KT incoming , Idah hopefully at his best , hopefully Schlupp can sign permanently think he will be a real good player here. A whole summer to get the striker we want , and maybe look at a CB upgrade ,CDM . But no major surgery needed . With Jota and KT in the door , it will be a very important window for years to come.
     
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    Yeah they don’t fill me with much confidence. Will see what they can do in the summer regarding the striker situation. We are lucky the position we are in right now that it wasn’t life or death not to manage getting one in. Sounds genuinely like we tried but it’s January and guys like Kvistgaarden were overpriced. No excuse for not getting a stop gap loan in though when nothing else materialised.
     
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    ST
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    Miller then back to Motherwell till January.
    CB
    RB

    Would be my initial wishlist if noone leaves. Still need an injection of quality onto the bench even
     
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    No of course not but getting a replacement isn’t always so straightforward. Seen so many * strikers here come and go over the years. Sounds like we probably gambled on getting a deal done with Brondby in the final days and it backfired. Getting some cover on loan after that should have been done even though it would likely be someone who would be 3rd choice and hardly play. We will obviously be buying another striker in the summer. Much better window to be doing it in too.
     
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    The point remains that if we pick up an injury or two we're in bother. It's not about bringing in an ideal replacement, it's about having a squad capable of challenging on all fronts and allowing for injury and rotation. There is no reason we couldn't have got someone until the summer. And what's the excuse then if (as I'm expecting) we don't get Kvistgaarden in? Finishing January weaker than we went into it is a disgrace.
     
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    Many keep talking about striker injuries to bash Brendan and the Board over the transfer window.
    What about the other side of the coin, none of our strikers get injured and they go unscathed for the rest of the season.?
    What is there, 14 league games to go, 4 possible Cup games, and two games with Bayern ?
    Why focus on the negative all the time.?