'Honest' mistakes 24/25

Their goal shouldn't have stood. No doubt Beaton would've seen the push if it was the other way around.

As for the offside decision, do me a favour.

 

It’s been said a bunch, but if you get pushed (even nudged) in the lower back as you’re rising up to jump, you’re essentially helpless.

 

You have to laugh when folk say “Ah he must be stronger.” If you are jumping and get two hands in the back, how the * can you be stronger? Can see the point if you’re feet are planted, but no when you are in the air with both feet off the ground.

 

Exactly!

 

The whole 'theres not enough in that' we hear from former players is absolute pish.
If you raise hands to push, pull or gain advantage when player is jumping or running at pace its always a foul, in and out of the box.

Although I'd never make a ref....I'd give 6 penalties a game from all the pushing and shoving.
Its tolerated way too much - Juventus in MoN era anyone?

 

Juventus against celtic in the last 16 would have had us 17 penalties with var today.

 

They didn't seem to discuss or even analyse the Well goal on sportscene. During the highlights playing the commentator seemed to think it may be chopped.

 

They didn't really discuss any of the goals ruled out really. Anybody with any sense couldn't defend the decision, so they just ignore it.

 

Of course not they never bring attention to these things against us as common as they are, but anything miniscule for us its front and center

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Frustrated St Mirren chiefs are to lead the call for a total revamp of VAR in the Premiership and want to see it taken out of the hands of the Scottish Football Association and run by an independent body.

The Buddies feel aggrieved after a string of recent injustices and the final straw was the fact they weren’t awarded a penalty for a first half foul on Elvis Bwomono in Saturday’s 1-0 defeat to St Johnstone. The Paisley outfit have already had five acknowledgements of VAR mistakes this season and they expect that to become six when referee chief Willie Collum reviews the weekend footage.

That is the most errors against a single club in the top-flight and comes after St Mirren also topped that unwanted chart last season. St Mirren chiefs are now seeking urgent talks with the SFA but want sweeping changes and an independent body put in charge of VAR.

A St Mirren insider said: “Yes, we are seeking an urgent meeting with the SFA. We want all relevant information shared in decisions, along with an acknowledgment of impact. All reasons behind VAR decisions should be shared.

“The selection of VAR teams needs to be reviewed and developed. We would like to see training on VAR policies with a whistleblowing policy created for authenticity/integrity. We also feel VAR should be run independently and have its own code of conduct and regulations away from the SFA and referees. We need to get this right because it is costing clubs financially to implement VAR and it shouldn’t be costing us on the pitch.”

St Mirren put out a statement in the wake of what they feel is this latest error in their defeat to St Johnstone.

The club has already been in contact with SFA referee chief Willie Collum and won’t let it lie with a simple apology.

A club statement read: ‘St Mirren FC is disappointed with the decision not to award a penalty in the first-half of yesterday’s match against St Johnstone following a foul on Elvis Bwomono. A VAR review cleared this decision without requiring the referee to look at the incident on the pitch-side monitor.

"The club has spoken to the Scottish Football Association’s Referee Department today seeking clarity on this and other decisions in yesterday’s match. Clearly, we are all humans and mistakes will happen. However, there has now been an accumulation of errors made against St Mirren. This is hugely disappointing for the club and our supporters, and we will continue to engage with the Scottish FA to improve standards of officiating.’

Norwegian football has recently made the decision to remove VAR from its top-flight

 

Who's coffee did st mirren * in?

 

Dundee Utd refusing to participate with the VAR panels. Be interesting to see where this goes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4gw8q5vwexo

 

The ST is too catholic sounding

 

Var review out ….. Willie now letting them away with it all …..rangers Dundee penalty incident can hear the var team and ref it’s hoaching to say the least right away ref saying g no penalty no even allowing var to get a say then Greg aitken agrees he’s run into nsiala no mention of step on foot


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Likewise Greg aitken saying penalty for county yet idah had a two push on him against Dundee at home no pen and everyone saying soft


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Good on st mirren

 

Thought Collum was embarrassing in his latest review..

Calling that player at the huns standing on Murray's foot a coming together..

If he's no aware and stands on the boys foot, it's almost always a fall. Nudges in to him as well wrongside..

Was a penalty everyday of the week..

By the way. Wee side note for earlier but I hate refs that blow up early, don't care the scoreline..

 

Don't know the St Mirren situations, but fair play to them for standing up for themselves, in a way we seem very reticent to do. Not often I'll give credit to the Huns for ANYTHING, but if there's even a SHADOW of a doubt that they can appeal over (and often even no sense at all!) they're all over it, and more teams should be doing that!

 

Seems the review show was exactly as we expected.

Nice for the first two shows, but the inconsistency and return to "ah well" and making up the rules seems to be in full swing.

If there are incidents that contradict each other, they aren't addressing it and simply brushing it along with the usual "we can learn"

Been 7 months of this season, where's the learning? They are getting worse!

To the point that ref the other night gave a foul against trusty only for VaR to completely and utterly give the opposite decision for a penalty and a booking in our favour.

How can the ref initially be that * bad?
I get if he just missed it, but he actually called it completely wrong

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