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Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat)

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Paul67, Dec 17, 2010.

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  1. Waiting For An Alibi

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    McInnes has played a blinder. There are huns wanting him as manager.

    He plays worse football than baldy, and wouldn't have a plastic pitch at home to take advantage of it.
     
  2. cammy07

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    Mcinnes is an absolute * but he’s obviously not daft, that was like a mini audition for the hun job that he knows is likely to come up soon and he’s played a blinder cause they’re thick as * and will lap it up.

    It’s not our fault the minute silence was cut short, he should take it up with the referee who decided to do that.
     
  3. Sloth McCausland Gold Member Gold Member

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    Always remember my brethren * the poppy Always a stupid reaction from the media this time of year * them
     
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  4. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Dunno if it's the fact that I'm getting older or whatever, but I just cannot be * with the hassle this * day comes with.

    On one hand, we have der Huns with their faux-staunch over the top celebration of everything British-ness to make themselves out to be the quintissential Brit club. A total embarrassment.

    Then you have us. There's a reason why all eyes are on us, because they expect us to show ourselves up. And that's exactly what a section of our support are doing. It's becoming tiresome.

    I would never demand folk take part in a silence as I'm well aware of the added "hidden" connotations of it, but in all seriousness - what is breaking or disrupting/protesting the silence actually achieving? Best part of 11 or 12 years this day portays our support as neanderthals. IF folk want to show their disapproval for crimes if Britain/England, then they really need to try a new tactic. Protest it outside the grounds by all means, don't go into the stadium until it's over. Whether or not it's now to commemorate ALL conflicts (which include murderous criminal campaigns) it still includes both WW's, many Celtic supporters families most likely had family members involved/killed in, and not to forget CELTIC PLAYERS who died also - again, I'd hazard a guess that no more than a handful of the folk at the game yesterday woulbe be able to mention the name of even one of those players.

    Would any of these folk doing it have the balls to so similar if, for example, they were at work or stood in the middle of Tescos or something, would they be bursting into chorus' of Aiden McAnespie? Would they *. As an aside, I'd probably bet a fair share of them wouldn't even be able to tell you anything about Aiden McAnespie other than quoting the song...
     
  5. Drakhan Nac Mac Feegle Gold Member

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    Will never wear a poppy or join minute silence.
    One of my distant relatives(can’t remember name) was killed by British army during the occupation/troubles. Also another at the Easter Rising.
    However, there is a way to commemorate Celtic players who died in those 2 wars.
    Make a banner with their picture on it and use that with message on it celebrating his memory alone.
     
  6. Random Review

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    For me, I support their right to do it if that's what they feel is right; but at 47, I no longer share the feeling that it is a good thing to protest at that exact time.

    Like if there were a family in your area that lost some of its members in a horribly violent way and held a memorial service for them every year. And lets say that some (but not all) of these people did some bad things. It's a good thing to remember and remind people that some of the people who died were scumbags; but it's probably not good or helpful to pop in and do it at their memorial service. Rugby Park is their home not ours.

    It's a little different at CP as we never asked for them to bring their silences into our football games and I agree with that.
     
  7. murphy88

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    Whatever happened to “Keep politics out of football.”

    No seen much from these folk the last few days.
     
  8. Lochlin Mcghee

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    * the poppy, * the crown, * Israel, * uefa.
    I was one who cheered happily during the silence and will continue to do so again, again and again.
    I have friends who were in the military who dont even do the silence ffs. They states it's Purley virtue signalling and has lost its true meaning.
    To sit here and tell others to be quiet after watching what the British crown has done across the globe is hilarious. They fought in ww1 and ww2 to give EVERYONE the right of freedom of choice and expression. What I and others choose to do with those rights has * all to do with anyone else and couldnt care less.
    Imagine asking people to sit quiet and respect a group in which murdered innocent women and children. Get yourself so far to *.
     
  9. made in ireland

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    Brilliant from the support yesterday.

    The hypocrisy and double standards from the media and the “keep politics out of football” brigade has been laughable.
     
  10. Bob Loblaw Gold Member Gold Member

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    Our support regularly sings about a group that (like it or not) was responsible for killing civilians, including women and children. That's the harsh truth of it, no matter where you stand on the Troubles or Irish re-unification.

    I’m not about to label everyone involved with the Irish Republican cause as murderers. The situation is far more complex than that. So why do the same when talking about those who died in the armed forces, many of whom didn’t have a choice in their involvement? Particularly for those (Irish and Celtic players included I should add) who fought in WW1 and 2.

    I despise poppy fascism and everything about it and the event has been hijacked - that’s undeniable. The carry on at Ibrox with the utter glorification of the military is the perfect example of that. But there are far better ways of making a point than cheering and booing through a simple minute’s silence. It’s crass, classless and a poor show from everyone involved.

    People throw around the word 'hypocrisy' a lot during this time of year. But it’s not something we can exclusively point to the other side on. There’s plenty of it on our side too.
     
  11. murphy88

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    Why no a white poppy if it’s about the world wars?
     
  12. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Not wearing the Poppy etc, I understand..

    Disrupting a minutes silence for War dead is crass.

    If you feel strongly, turning your back is far more poignant.

    But aye, the whole thing is boring..
     
  13. made in ireland

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    Celtic’s fanbase has a unique and historically rooted identity, with deep ties to Irish Republicanism, which is an essential part of our heritage. This expression isn’t about inciting controversy but rather about acknowledging and honouring the history and values that resonate with a significant portion of the fanbase. To tell these fans to suppress their political views in the stadium, while at the same time asking them to observe tributes that carry their own political weight (such as the poppy, which represents a specific set of historical narratives and military events), is a complete double standard.


    Football, especially in Celtic’s case, isn’t separate from the cultural and social context of its supporters. Attempting to restrict political expression selectively suggests that only certain types of political statements are allowed — typically those aligned with mainstream narratives or media views. This expectation is problematic because it marginalises the voices and perspective of a fanbase that already often feels underrepresented.

    Kilmarnock are well within their right to put a poppy on their shirts and for a minute’s silence at their ground, but Celtic fans are equally within their right to tell them where they can stick it as well.
     
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  14. Bob Loblaw Gold Member Gold Member

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    I don’t necessarily disagree with what you’re saying, but we’re not being asked to wear a poppy or to partake in Armistace Day marches etc. We’re being asked to stay quiet for, at most, 60 seconds. Or if we can’t manage that that just staying in the concourse or turning away until it’s done.

    There’s a point at which it becomes less about expressing our Irish identity and more about deliberately trying to offend others - booing and cheering through a minutes silence is the latter imo. It’s just crass.
     
  15. Wee Baldy

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    I think our fans should observe the minute's silence while holding aloft a tiffo or banner with the words "Ireland will never forget the injustices she suffered under British rule" or some other poignant message.
     
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  16. made in ireland

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    But the obvious counter to that is that if you want to observe a minute’s silence for the Brits, then do so at one of the many specific services that have been arranged for that.

    If you want such an overtly political stance to be observed in a football stadium, then you shouldn’t really expect supporters of a predominantly Irish Republican persuasion to sit quietly and ignore the obvious double standards.
     
  17. gandolf

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    FANTASTIC POST.
     
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  18. McGrory1888

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    It’s boring. Every year it’s the same much ado about nothing.

    Those who lost their lives in the world wars did so fighting for freedom and equality. So those who want to have a silence, do so. Those that don’t, don’t. It’s really that simple.
     
  19. Westlondonscot Gold Member Gold Member

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    I personally wouldn't break a minutes silence, I think it's a bad look. Also some good people did fight in the wars, died for us, and those who died were not the ones orchestrating these wars. These people do deserve respect.

    I don't wear poppies myself anymore, I did when I was younger but I think it's become hijacked rather than me being against it, unfortunately another thing gammons have taken as their own right wing symbol. I'm also not sure the Legion really look after ex-servicemen, so many of them homeless.

    I do however believe in freedom for peaceful protest, which this was. I also think having us away on remembrance Sunday was * stupid. Why not have us at home and the huns away? If we'd been at home their would have been no issue.
     
  20. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Who told you to be quiet?