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Welcome to Celtic Alex Valle

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Notorious, Aug 26, 2024.

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  1. RogicHasMagicToes

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    You're the one who straight away dived in with the insults, you're the one who got * triggered

    Zero justification for Taylor over Valle tonight, zero, experience definitely can't be used as the justification otherwise Scales would have started over Trusty
     
  2. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    You're the * who's making stuff up


    Embarrassing
     
  3. RogicHasMagicToes

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    I'll say it again, if experience was the justification for the start, then Scales would have started ahead of Trusty
     
  4. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    It's absolutely nothing to with anyone being petty

    You are aware the amount of games we play in a short period of time
     
  5. RogicHasMagicToes

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    Fully aware but let's be honest, the best team starts every Champions League game, no one is rested in the Champions League for domestic games, if the best team is available for the Champions League, everyone plays, otherwise there would have been more than one change from the Aberdeen game, also if experience was the genuine reason we would have seen Forrest start ahead of Kuhn, doesn't add up

    Having said all that, fair play to Taylor on the stroke of halftime, he's justified his selection with that great ball across the box for Kuhn to tap in
     
  6. MacEwan Himmy Butler Gold Member

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    That’s actually not true in the slightest.

    There’s a difference between resting players and rotation. Taylor and Valle can be rotated comfortably, so can Bernardo and Hatate/Engles, Trusty/Scales.

    Teams rotate all the time depending on tactics, fitness, anything.
     
  7. MacEwan Himmy Butler Gold Member

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    Surely you can see the difference between Valle/Taylor and Scales/Trusty in terms of experience?

    Valle has barely any first team football experience in general never mind European.

    Trusty has Premier League experience, he’s the same age as Scales, international.

    Don’t be naive.
     
  8. Damnati

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    This seems a silly argument after Taylor was fantastic and Valle struggled to get to grips with the speed of the game when he came on.

    Good player, but Rodgers obviously knows what he's doing.
     
  9. saltire78

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    I've never knocked the club on sell-on and option-to-buy clauses, because we actually utilise them.very well, in general... I'd no doubt whatsoever that WE TRIED to get one on the loan, but knowing us it was also probably lowball... As I said, difficult to prise young players away from these massive clubs
     
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    I could be way off but I don’t think Barca would recall him.

    I can see this being more like our deals with Benfica. We’ll stay calm and at the end of the season get a deal organised if the player wants to stay.

    I don’t think Barcelona will consider him good enough for them and in terms of making money, we’ve shown we can get premier league fees for a player if they do come good. We have that track record now.

    A few million up front and potentially a lot more if the player comes good.

    Alternative is trying another loan somewhere in Spain which might not work out and the money is then gone.
     
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  11. McGrory1888

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    I’m assuming you’ll retract this statement now? :fear:

    Clearly it was a tactical decision and clearly that decision worked wonders. The shape of our first phase of build up play wouldn’t have been possible without Taylor in the team. A bold decision, but one which paid off handsomely.
     
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    Setting aside the unsubstantiated rumors, I’m not aware a loan recall is even possible 4 months into it. I remember need for recalling Eric who was on loan at Girona last season after all the midfield injuries but that was not feasible so I don’t think it’s an option for Valle to return in January

    Barça are more likely to sell player or integrate him in 1st team, for which many culés like myself have viewed as good enough (and certainly superior to both Fort and Martin)

    Then it’s again up to player, rotation player at his home club or start elsewhere? Be sure though, if it’s latter club will use his current form to maximize his fee on open market which is why Celtic don’t have a buy option
     
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    Did get caught a few times but you kind of expect that from a full back coming on at that time. Made a few good recovery inteceptions and his calmness on the ball was a massive help when seeing the game out.
     
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    A recall option isn't that uncommon, here at least. It's usually so you can bring them back if you have an injury crisis, or the player isn't getting game time and the loan isn't working to their benefit. We have done it ourselves, with Adam Montgomery being the most recent example, so I'd say there is a realistic chance it could happen in January if Barca actually want him back.
     
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    "Not going to sugar coat it, I am.pribably one of them that gives taylor a hard time but even when he is having a good run I just never feel like its to the standard we should expect"

    Even after a great performance last night and consistently performing well since coming here. Guys not got a chance has he with some fans.
     
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    If you're talking about who our best LB is in a technical sense, it's not even close - and it's not the masquerading CM that is Taylor.
     
  19. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    How reliable are these rumours? I'm guessing not overly.

    It would seem a bizarre move. Barca surely are already well aware of his potential, would be very surprised after less than 20 games (by January) he goes back to you.

    I'd be gutted.
     
  20. dbhoy72

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    Hopefully have him at least for the season, so hopefully untrue.