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I honestly think that's a pen under any variation of the handball rule..

 

Rules have changed on encroaching mate, think this season.. the player encroaching needs to affect the ball..

 

Was a stonewall penalty, but wonder if VAR has been looked at as closely for the keeper coming slightly off their line in other games.

 

I agree, it is. But it shouldn't be.

 

If your arm beige far away from your body stops a ball going into the box isn't a penalty what would someone have to do for it be ana actual handball then?

 

1) Move their arm towards the ball.
2) Make themselves unnaturally bigger as determined by an actual expert in the mechanics of human movement rather than a bunch of referees who couldn't find their own **** with both hands.

 

So what is the actual rule with Duk's handball on the line. I think there's 2 conflicting rules.

If the ball hits your leg and pops up onto your arm, it's not a pen.

If you stop a certain gola with your arm, even if it's accidental, it is a pen.

It looked to me like the ball popped up off Duk's leg, was going in to the net, then hit his arm accidentally.

So should that be a pen or not? I would have expected Var to discuss it for longer than 5 seconds, especially as it was the last kick of the ball in such an important game.

 

If the arms not out and they deem it that it would hit his body even if the arm wasnt there then it’s not a penalty. It’s one of they ones that you can argue about for months, analysing every clip in slow motion to prove conclusive or not. I wouldn’t have found it a poor call if it was a penalty but I don’t think it’s a poor call it not being gave.

The interesting one was McCowan shortly before, there was similar decision they explained that it’s not where the first contact was, it’s continued into the box, ball in the box, McCowan is taken down actually in the box with contact outside. That’s apparently, I think anyway not 100%, by the laws theyve explained - a penalty.

But honestly, I’d think thatd be * harsh as well. But its about consistency innit

 

McCowan one wasn't a pen. Contact definitely started and finished outside the box.

I think Var should have looked at the Duk one for longer - felt like they couldn't wait to say it wasn't a pen.

Sure there was another penalty shout early in the second half when it was 2 - 0 that never got discussed.

 

I don’t think McCowan one should be but I’l need to watch the first VAR review they released cos i think thats the way they explained it should be.

I don’t think it should be right enough.


The audio for Duk will be released end of the month and we’ll find out the script. 50/50 one for me. But honestly * knows the handball rule anymore

 

The decision is total BS IMO, mate. I'm all for that not being a penalty; but then neither should the Scales one the other week be. In my opinion, neither should be a penalty; but if one is, they both have to be. Like you say, I don't think it's consistent. No doubt they'll justify the difference with all this pseudoscientific nonsense about natural positions.

 

It's a penalty and a yellow card all day long always has been. Dgso by handling the ball and handball are not based the same criteria. It's amazing how the media manage to muddy the waters/obfuscate a black and white situation creating a debate/narrative where there is none;

"Where a player denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by committing a non-deliberate handball offence and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned."

 

I'm no even gonna say it was a penalty as it's hard to tell. I'll give them the benefit of doubt (I know I know) that it bounced off another part of the body first..

My big gripe with this was how quickly they seemed to decide over it. It was a massive call, in a big game, at the very death. There's no way they've analysed it thoroughly from all angles in my opinion..

There's been too many instances where we've had calls that are waved away in record time..

The McCowan one was just outside the box for me..

 

Alan Muir wouldn't even have checked handball if that happened in the other box, he'd have went straight to thinking thats a penalty and red for a foul from behind with no attempt to play the ball. Hun *.

 

Was very noticeable how he gave Bernardo a yellow and a few Motherwell players impeding our players and got nothing, incident that stands out for me was the off the ball incident and not even a yellow.

 

Don't know why this wasn't a red and no penalty either https://x.com/Zeshankenzo/status/18...fter-kung-fu-connor-barron-escapes-card-free/




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They think not enough contact for the pen but if you are turning not much will take you down. Pen for me.

The high foot is disgraceful. Greg Aitkin knows what he's doing.

 

That's a disgrace. I flinched at that studs first, challenge towards the players head. That's more of a red than the guy trying to break idahs leg. Mental.

 

It's just another in a long list of cheating by officials in this country

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