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Top-of-the-table clash faces blackout after Celtic turn down Premier Sports deal

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Notorious, Oct 8, 2024.

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  1. Sween

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    The biggest issue is the 3pm means no TV rule. It's outdated and a bit silly when in a global market it's pretty easy to find live broadcast through VPNs/streaming, etc. The idea that a fan of a team of any other club won't go to see their team because they would rather stay home to watch celtic v Aberdeen is surely wrong.

    That all said, it's a bad decision all round not to allow this. We need to be promoting our league as much as possible. And refusing to show a game on TV when we know it will be a sell out, and we know there's tens of thousands of fans on a season book waiting list, just feels wrong. It's not like there's a fear that celtic fans won't show up, yet they are actively deciding fans who can't attend shouldn't be allowed to watch. Same goes for Aberdeen fans who I assume have already sold out their allocation. It's poor from the board.
     
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  2. Drakhan Nac Mac Feegle Gold Member

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    75k isn’t enough. Add 2 zeros per match and reduce ticket prices and would be more acceptable to fans.
     
  3. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Is this really the hill you're gonna die on, as such?

    Devaluing the TV deal? It's a new deal, not the sky one, and it's worth 75k a game.
    I think Premier Sport already devalued it themselves. Or perhaps the folk who negotiated that.

    It's absolutely correct that the club reject this one. It's a secondary, minimal TV deal that isn't worth * really.

    If premier sport badly want to show it to promote the game, or the league want the same, then they should fight against the absolutely * blackout of 3pm Saturday games on tv.
    Or they should offer far more for the privilege to be showing our game on their TV channel.

    I bet PS would be getting vastly more than 75k per game for showing this game.

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    I love a 3 PM Saturday kickoff so I'm glad the club has done what is right here.

    Also, the 3 PM TV blackout can be avoided entirely with IPTV and a VPN for fans who can't go to the game. I don't understand why people would pay ridiculous prices on multiple platforms to see a handful of Celtic games.
     
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  5. horseshoe

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    £75k to move a fixture is a pisstake, board are 100% right to not entertain this and inconvenience travelling fans.
     
  6. kenniemk2

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    Tv cording to sources online they agreed to the last home game being shown because they knew the st Johnstone game was gonna be low turn out because the great Scottish run …. I think they just wanted the money


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    I don't see the big deal here.

    Fans complain when games get moved and say fans are getting shafted....and even want the hun games back to 3pm on a Saturday.

    Feel the club have done the right thing in keeping it at 3pm for the travelling fans from both ends who would have arrangements In place.
     
  8. kenniemk2

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    Was offered 4 million per ten game set so they were offered the 20 at 8 million a season they said no then premiership got them for between 4m-6m


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  9. kenniemk2

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    If premier hadn’t not have took the 20 game package I have no doubt sky would have not shown the Dundee or Edinburgh derbies


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  10. kenniemk2

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    Hill am gonna die on ? Do some better re search before you try to stick a knife in the media are the ones that have portrayed Celtic are in the wrong …. Turns out after this morning they are not as their home games were never part of the deal any way also 75 k is not what premier are paying a game that’s what Celtic would have got on the side if they had opted in for the game to be shown instead of another pick that they would have went with if the game didn’t have such interest in it

    Premier are paying approximately 200k -300 k a game


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  11. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Correction, 75k to Celtic for the game/per game.

    Point still stands, the club are correct to send them packing in this instance.

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    I agree with this and again particular the Edinburgh derby should be able to attract a better fee for showing it.

    I know Benfica get praised for their transfer model but they also control the media rights to some of their own matches (I think it’s their home games) and get something in the region of €30m for those games alone before they get their cut of the league deal for their away games.

    Celtic having to win the league to get £4.5m out of the SPFL tv pot given our global fan base is beyond poor. Surely with a bit of effort Celtic could be doing far better for themselves? Yeah it may be to the detriment of the rest of the league but I don’t think these teams we are competing with in Europe care when they are doing it.
     
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    3pm suits me. I'll be at it and 90+ mins either way whether I take the car or train so later on a weekend night isn't great. Also can imagine we'd likely have to pay more for policing so doubt we'd have made anything near £75k.


    Imagine Aberdeen supporters travelling down and any of our own fans travelling are glad it's not been moved.
     
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  14. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    60k Celtic fans (absolutely taking a massively low number of support by just using the stadium capacity) at £20 a month for 12 months, if Celtic did that and put on their service all celtic games and all B squad games along with weekly interviews with staff and players. I reckon a lot would happily pay it in the UK and Ireland.

    That in itself would be half the current TV deal. Let alone the Huns could achieve similar numbers to make the entire TV deal with just the two clubs.

    Knock in the rest of the leagues clubs and let's say that's another 60k for very simple numbers and we could actually generate 1.5x the revenue just be doing it ourselves and going online.

    That's the bare minimum I'd imagine.
    You're talking more likely double if not triple those numbers for us and the huns, so let's say more like £50m a season fan be brought in as a basic figure.

    If every club does it, can call it, oh I don't know...SPFLTV and have everyone sign up to the one package, where you declare your team ans you get full access to your clubs content, but also other clubs first team games. Meaning every fan across the world has access to every game we want to watch, all the time.

    In my personal opinion, the reason we don't do this, is because as with most things with people in high places and power, they'll take the lazy and easy option that retains the income they have, without taking any risk of adventure to further increase revenue and benefit everyone.

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  15. Mr. Slippyfist

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    If there wasn't the threat if firesticks/kodi etc etc, I reckon it's an avenue Celtic MAY have went down, but probably too risky an option.
     
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  16. Mr. Slippyfist

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    The tv deals are just ONE if the glaringly obvious issues with Scottish football.
     
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    The 3pm blackout rule is waaaaay out of date!
     
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    I dunno. I'm a VPN cheeky stream guy but I'd happily pay £20 a month for high quality no buffering access to games and interviews, highlights, repeats etc plus having the option of watching some other big games like Hibs Hearts etc.
     
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  19. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    For sure you'll get a good chunk who will go down that route, no issues with that from me

    But think as a club, world over, we'd smash those numbers.

    I think where it may get sticky with other clubs is that they can't generate the same revenue and attract the same number of subscribers as we would.
    Hence, it would certainly need to be done as a league TV effort and all revenue pulled.
    Can set it up when that % of declared support means you get a proportioned share or the money. Or something to help the smaller clubs without the clubs who do bring in the subscribers from shooting themselves in the foot.

    Either way though, surely to * we and every other club would do better than what's on offer from the current broadcasters.

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  20. Mr. Slippyfist

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    SPL streaming channel - members only.

    In a day in age when any ol' * can jump on a camera and stream content (wink wink) there's no reason why it couldnt be done.
     
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