Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Let's be honest they are not an elite level side. Yeah they got to champions league final last year but they had a fairly favourable draw.
They are not a side any of the big teams would lose any sleep over

 

Napoli went out on 12 points in 13/14.

 

How can a team who got to the final not be an elite side? They haven't lost at home in the CL for 3 years.

 

Bcoz they aren't, pretty much explained that in my post.

Look at who they beat to get there. They had a draw so favourable it makes huns run to seville look hard. The best side they faced prior to the final was athletico Madrid and even we got a result against them.

They finished 5th in their league, that's not elite.

Next you'll be saying the Tottenham side that got to champions league final a few years back were elite

 

He * himself at the CL.

 

I am shell shocked. I both understand and agree that the only way to be consistently good at a high level is to play a front foot style.

When you are 4-1 down away to a top team and you can’t get a touch, why would you not try and change anything.

 

Just not a European competition level manager. Never has been and never will be.

 

For me, their best 11 is a Europa League favourite and they were both lucky and industrious enough to make a CL final last year.

That team they went with tonight isn’t even as good as RBL or Atalanta for me. If we can’t play out against that tonight, we are in for a treat against those two.

 

I’ve been one of the loudest singing his praises tactically for most of this calendar year. However, that was seriously disturbing tonight; like he just regressed back 7 years or so.

I mean - going to one of the most infamously intense stadia in world football, to play last year’s CL finalists, who have one of the fastest front lines in world football - he can’t have seriously thought we were just going to run out, set up exactly as we would against Ross County, and hand them their * ….or did he?

 

He drew with Hearts at Anfield as Liverpool manager in Europe about 12 years ago, Brendan and Europe just don't go together hand in hand, so much evidence throughout his entire managerial career at Champions League and Europa League level to support that, he had a run in the Europa Conference with Leicester but that's about it, however even Moyes at West Ham won the Europa Conference, Olympiakos from the Greek League also won it last season

A big concern I've had too is that he seems to be back in full control of signings, Brendan has a shocking track record at judging on what players to sign or not, when Suarez left Liverpool he felt Benteke, Balotelli and Rickie Lambert would be adequate replacements, pretty certain at the time Liverpool scouting department recommended Cavani however Brendan wanted Benteke instead (I think it was Cavani they recommended although it may have been someone else who went onto have a top career as a striker)

The Matt O'Riley money all went on Idah, Engels and Trusty, Brendan wanted them all, really concerned that we won't see any of those players compete properly at Champions League level which is surely what they've all been signed to produce

 

In pre-season against City and Chelsea I seen a good balance but tonight was a strange set up. As you say seemed like he set us up as we do every weekend and anyone with half a brain could see it wasn’t working 10 mins in.

Don’t understand this performance ar all.

 

Ffs yesterday he was great, today he's pish.

I cant stand the c#nts ego (Danny McGrain) but tonight he put out our best team and played the way we play

Big message to the board, the gap is huge.

I hate it but it is what it is

 

"Gap is huge" doesn't cut it when we have a far bigger transfer budget and wage bill than Sparta Prague who were extremely unfortunate not to get out of Stuttgart with 3 points last night, same Stuttgart side that pumped Dortmund little over a week ago, even Bochum and Heidenheim have went to Dortmund in recent weeks both losing 4-2, two sides with far smaller transfer budgets and wage bills than ourselves again

 

Might be some truth to those hos record with liverpool … a so callled elite side wasn’t great

A think this tunnel vision for epl is his downfall at times


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Give Rodgers his due he never signed balotelli on mnf he actually slaughtered the signing


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So what should we do?

 

I watched that game and Sparta were brilliant and probably deserved to win.

I said on the match thread that this loss is partly down to Brendans ego.. thinking you can go toe to toe with Dortmund is madness. I said after the game the weekend that his swagger was back, I think our domestic form went to his head..

before the game I mentioned this was a free hit, I expected us to lose but 7-1 is * disgraceful even of its against last years finalists.

Getting some stick already this morning on my Football group ha

 

Fair enough, just remember Benteke and Lambert being his choices so was thinking with Balotelli being signed during that time period that he was involved in that signing too but I take it back

Appoint a manager who knows how to consistently punch far, far above his weight with a squad, exactly what we require in Europe

Brendan will always be a safe pair of hands domestically but in Europe we'll never go anywhere under him, far too naive at this level against the stronger sides with much bigger budgets

Brendan will see out the remainder of his contract but after that we need to source a manager who is known for punching way above his weight at multiple clubs

Personally, I've saw plenty domestic dominance, it's great, however I was 10 years old when we got to Seville, I never fully appreciated that Euro run being so young, 20+ years on and I'm absolutely desperate to see us make some kind of mark in Europe again, been far, far, far too long

 

So who do you have in mind?