Yang Hyun Jun

And also that Valle needs drip fed into a first choice team, nae like yesterday.

 

Aye, forgot about those. But his best performances have consistently come from the bench compared to starting.

I think he'll be an impact sub at best. I don't have an issue with that tbh. We do need better though.

 

Deffo and impact player for me. Does well
Coming off the bench and gives us pace and directness

 

Think the issue is tho we don’t play in a league where “better” would come and sit on the bench behind Maeda or Kuhn. Yang to me is the perfect mix of young, potential for growth, but inconsistent enough that he’ll know himself he can’t be complaining about not starting. Then also gives 100% any time he does get a game.

happy enough if that’s only 20+ games a season when there’s currently 2 undroppable wingers in maeda and Kuhn ahead of him. I’m sure Yang will be on very low wages too.

do we pay for instance a £6m fee for a winger on 30k a week from down south to then come sit on the bench as much as Yang?

 

No. We scout better to get another Kuhn or Maeda. Preferably one who is younger who can take the baton from them one day.

 

Isn't that exactly their point though? Why would a Kuhn who's starting every game for Rapid Vienna or a Maeda who'd just come off leading the league in scoring in Japan come here knowing that barring an injury to the existing wingers, they're looking at sub appearances and cup games for the forseeable?

 

How else do we improve?

We didn't pay £6m for Kuhn or Maeda and they're not on £30k a week?

If we're paying that sort of package, I'm expecting a Engles level of winger coming in.

We have McGregor, Engles, Hatate, Bernardo and McCowan as options in the middle. We don't have that depth on the wings. Nowhere near it.

 

If that's the players attitude then we don't sign them

We should be looking for players with attitude of I'm as good as they are and I'm going to force my way into the team.

Absolutely no doubt that is/was Idah's mindset before signing

 

I agree we can improve on better scouting, but I feel like my original point was Yang fits the profile of a good option off the bench right now. When we know we can’t realistically as a club get a better option like Maeda/Kuhn or better to sit on the bench.

Buying an “Engels level” is more £10-12 million not £6million so there’s no way we do that and it not immediately mean Kuhn or Maeda are benched. Would they be happy to be a sub each week to then further develop as a club?

Giakoumakis wasn’t happy to sit on the bench and left.

I totally agree we can always get better! But I think we need a dose of realism when thinking about that too. We’re never gonna be able to entice players to come here just as options and I don’t think the hierarchy of the club would change our model to do that

 

How do we know Yang isn't another Kuhn. He's 3 years younger. Kuhn has played for 6 clubs in the past 6 years so took time to get to this stage. Players develop and will eventually reach their full potential whatever that is. Yang hasn't reached his potential yet.

 

Because under a responsible manager who will rotate - as Rodgers will - that simply wouldn’t be the case (if they’re scouted properly, and prove to be genuine quality).

 

Jury is still out for me on Yang but there is no doubt he made an impact and was good when he came on at the weekend. If nothing else he bumped himself above Palma in the pecking order on the left IMHO.

 

I think we expect too much of these young players coming from abroad and expecting them to perform immediately. If we think of any 20 year old we know going to South Korea on their own, trying to fit in and do a very public job under intense scrutiny - I think it's fair to say that they'd struggle.
He's had a year under his belt now and will be more in a position to kick on. There's still improvement to come - it's just whether he can improve enough.

 

For me the biggest problem with him is the lack of end product. He had a couple of great dribbles and was direct when he came on at the weekend but other than a powerful shot straight at the goalkeeper what else did we actually get?

Even his top performances for us Aberdeen 6-0 and Dundee 7-1, he got 1 goal vs Aberdeen and 1 assist against Dundee despite a lot of nice dribbles and giving the full back a hard time.

He should be watching Kuhn, as he has similar tools, not as quick but good close control and ability to go either way but his passing and decision making is so poor compared to Kuhn. Yang even has a physical advantage in terms of size. If he could model his game as a right footed left winger, that either goes to the byline and pull it back or cut inside and shoot, essentially simplify his game we could have an asset on our hands.

However he had a lot of work to do to get there.

 

Most 20 year olds I know now can only just handle being in public Nevermind playing in front of 60,000 and knowing millions are watching at home!

 

I'm sure he'll get a few opportunities between now and January to show his worth. He did pick up a bit of form last season so he should be aiming to replicate that at the very least. I don't think he'll ever be good enough to be our first choice winger but if he proves himself as a capable backup then great. Main area I think he needs to work on is his decision making in the final third, as he has little end product so far.

 

If it wasn’t for everything going on in Israel I think Abada could have gone to the very top. Still a great profit we made on him though to say he didn’t play for months. I’d say he was a success all in all. Shame to see him in the MLS

 

I agree. I thought Yang did very well when he came on against Falkirk. Pacy, direct and determined. He has definitely moved ahead of Palma in the pecking for me anymore, and three years younger than Palma as @Mickmac has said already on this thread, so he is still learning, he could be another Kuhn on our hands.

Would give us a decent option for Maeda on the left wing, at least until we can reassess the situation in January.