Southport Attacks

I think you're obviously mentally ill if you stab children indiscriminately. But that can't be an excuse for this. Worst incident since Dunblane probably.

I honestly wouldn't be against crucifing the *.

 

Obviously it would.

However for the mental illness defence to be claimed/played there needs to be an overwhelming amount of expert opinion agreeing that is the case and not just some defence opinion or some sob story about a hard/disadvantaged easily lead life.
If that is all there is I'd be very tempted to get that plod from Manchester, who can then get kicking and stamping to his hearts content.

 

There’s a petition for the EDL to be proscribed as a terrorist organisation

 

My 5 year old had to do hiding practice at summer camp today because of this

 

I was going to 'like' this but then I realised 'like' is the wrong thing to say. So so sad it's come to this. Hope you 5 year old is ok mate

 

It's incredibly sad.

My 7 year old was asking me about it. It's a very hard thing to explain in a way that is honest but not scary.

 

He is, he told us and he didn’t understand but it's upset me that our kids have to do this. He thought learning how to hide was fun.

 

I can imagine that, Kids have an awesome way about dealing with things. Its sad that fear has to creep into a child's subconscious, I just reckon that he'll be more worried about the things directly around him rather than things on the news, children tend to have a leap of faith mentality where they believe the worst stuff on the news wont happen to them outside of their own world they live in.

 

schools where I live have been doing this for the past 2 years, practicing Intruder alarm, bomb alarm they even practiced evacuating to a safe point when the bomb alarm goes, which is a church just out the school.

I worked with LFB for a long time children are best at hiding when theres a danger, they are the worst jobs to be sent to including if it involves a missing person in a building when its on fire there very hard to find.

but what is the world coming to when kids cant even go to a club which is ment to be safe and fun to be at. Now there spending 15min doing intruder hiding prob scaring the life out them and are all confused as its ment to be a fun, safe happy place to be

 

I think it does, but I also think that the person who committed the crime needs to be under constant supervision for the rest of their lives.

There was a guy in Canada a few years ago who beheaded a man on a bus because he was suffering from (undiagnosed) paranoid schizophrenia. That’s obviously not his fault as it’s a terrible mental illness that he has no control over, but he was released from a psychiatric facility a few years later, which caused quite a lot of controversy. I believe he’s subject to regular monitoring to ensure he’s taking his meds, but it’s naturally worrying to the people around him and the family of the victim find it difficult to accept.

Not an easy question to answer, but if someone murdered several children I’d probably expect them to be detained for the remainder of their lives, for their own safety as well as that of others.

 

I think that if they bring it back (and I'm not saying I'm in favour of that), you have to be very certain indeed that you have the right person. There are too many miscarriages of justice, so the standards of evidence required should be even higher than that for a simple conviction. I'd even go so far as to say that if a judge sentences someone to death and it later turns out they were innocent, that should carry some kind of severe consequence for that judge's career even if it was an honest mistake. Just to incentivise them to be very, very sure.

 

I think to do that, though, the default assumption has to be mental illness, right? Just based on the base rates. I mean that severe mental illness is not that uncommon and surely there must be very, very few people that are that evil.

 

He was seen killing those kids so 100% guaranteed conviction which means 100% he should get death penalty.
His mental state means he definitely deserves death penalty as he won’t change. If he’s faking mental illness then again, he deserves death penalty.
Same for Jamie Bolgor’s killers.
Should have been in prison until 18 then hanged as soon as possible after they reached that age.
Joseph Orr was convicted of sexual assault on 5 young children( was on the jury) and all he got was 6 years total. Should have got 100 years (5 x20 consecutive sentences)

 

Jamie Bulger killers were little kids, who by all accounts were badly treated and abused as kids. No * way should they have been killed. They needed help.

 

Prison until 18 then executed.
Jamie Bolger was younger than them and never got a chance to even start school.
The 2 murderers were out on parole and still * broke the law.
Both back in prison were taxpayers money protects these * identities.
What would you do if your kid was assaulted by these * and you find out it’s Bolgers killers who have been protected by * do gooders

 

Can change my mind slightly about death penalty.
Murderer sent down for life if not caught in the act but jury convicts.
Allow them parole after 66% time served.
If however, cast iron evidence proves they committed the crime they don’t get parole but that evidence must be found by 33% of the sentence served.