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The Boxing Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Liam Scales, Jul 1, 2011.

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  1. Lecs

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    You have to wonder what was the thinking behind that.

    Was it a spur of the moment by Ngannou or was it his corner that told him to do it, or some thought out plan in the training leading up to it, because as soon as he went southpaw he got put on his *, within about 5 seconds actually.

    * mental. Joshua wasn't messing about though, he wasn't interested in giving the Saudis a big circus or any kind of pantomime. Unlike Fury.
     
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  2. littlekennie

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    All about opinions I think he protected himself a lot better in the fury fight than the Joshua fight


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    Dude I’m saying Mike Tyson when he was coaching nagannou that he was equipped better against fury whilst this time round Mike wasn’t his coach and he was wide open …I don’t know if you know mike Tyson was not ngannou coach for the Joshua fight


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  4. Skelleto

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    Mike Tyson vs Paul is one of these fights everyone will say that Paul will get destroyed (which i hope) but end up winning as usual. Boxing is just theatre these days.
     
  5. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    No one will say Paul will get destroyed, he’s young and athletic and does hit hard. Tyson is an old man and the entire thing is a laughable sham.
     
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    Tyson will year him apart in the 1st or 2nd round. Tyson was the best all round fighter ever known in boxing and I seen marciano. Ali . foreman.. tyson is a beast and in fight mode is so dominant. After Cus died he lost his way and was entangled with the wrong team.
     
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    Oh and punching power is the last thing to leave a boxer. Tyson will probs last 5 or 6 good rounds with not keeping up his condition. But he won't need anymore than 2 rounds to despatch jake paul
     
  8. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    You’re discussing Mike Tyson the boxer as if he’s anything close to his prime.

    He’ll be 58, he has no business being in the ring with a 27 year old lad who for all his flaws is still big and athletic.
     
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    I gotta say this is less true in this day and age. Tyson Fury does it all the time in his fights. Canello Alvarez also.....and many other boxers. Its a big part of training now to be able to box through orthydox and southpaw stances. Ngannou wasnt very good at it and chose a very bad time to do it. Thats all that happened. Its basic boxing tactics to throw a straight right or over-hand right against a southpaw as in general their left hand will be held lower than their lead right and leave a target right down the left side of their face. If the left hand isnt held low enough to connect with the straight right....start throwing right hand bodyshots which will naturally lower the opponent's left hand. It really is that simple
     
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    Mate it’s massively rare. Two examples who do it (Fury moreso) and happen to be at the absolute pinnacle of the sport doesn’t change that it’s a rare occurrence.

    It’s something that high levels boxers might do if the occasion suits it - but it’s definitely rare. You’re correct that Ngannou switching to southpaw sets up the right hand for Joshua, but that just makes it all the more bizarre.
     
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    Nope I know his age followed him since he was 16 last thing to go is punching power in a boxer and he will do him in max 2 rounds.. and jake paul is no more an athlete then me ffs he is a YouTuber er/influencer where does he get standings to go into a ring
     
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    Tyson apparently walks with a cane on occasion, with the peekaboo style (and brutal training regime) having messed up his back.

    Paul is very careful in his matchmaking. He’ll have enough people close to him in the boxing world who will tell him exactly what condition Tyson is in. If there was any chance of Paul getting flattened by a bloke in his mid-50’s, it wouldn’t be happening imo. Would ruin him.

    He does have a wrestling background I believe, and is a decent-ish athlete. Carries some natural punch power at least. He’s also been training for years now - longe than some amateurs will train before stepping into the professional game.

    Hopefully it’s just an exhibition type event. Nobody of Tyson age should be setting foot in combat sports that involve striking, imo (unless they’re against someone their own age).
     
  13. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    If you’ve followed Tyson since you were 16 and you’re a similar level of athlete to Jake Paul, you are a freak of nature so fair play to you mate :56:
     
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    I have regularly watched boxers on the undercards do it. I disagree with the statement that its a rare occurrence. Its part of the sport now to train in both stances. Obviously there will be a stronger stance depending on if the boxer is right or left handed. Obviously also there are a lot of boxers who do not do it. But rather than a rare occurrence it is a regular occurrence for a fighter to be able to box both ways nowadays
     
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    If you read it correctly I said since he was 16
     
  16. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Even worse.
     
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    As an influencer there is way too much risk with taking on Mike Tyson if losing was such a real possibility.

    Jake would not take this type of fight because a loss would be devastating to his boxing "career" let alone making him some loser meme in the influencer world as he gets ripped apart for thinking he can bully and beat a 58 year old only to get astoundingly humbled.

    Either way. This fight is a total lose-lose absolutely pointless exhibition.

    Jake knows if he fought a well ranked cruiserweight he'd come out crippled.
     
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    I said to the wife last night it's essentially a wwe scripted fight.
    Total bs.

    Plus tyson old as he is would kill him if it meant anything

    But it's for charity sk hopefully raises a fair amount.
    Great PR for Netflix
     
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    Hope loads of money is made for charity and that * Jake gets battered!
     
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