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The Boxing Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Liam Scales, Jul 1, 2011.

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  1. littlekennie

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    It the braap grime crap he’s comes out with its cringey


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  2. MacEwan Himmy Butler Gold Member

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    Aye I definitely have no issues with it, we all know plenty of oddballs.

    He seems happier and more relaxed now and thats the main thing.
     
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  3. Conjuring_Obey Gold Member Gold Member

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    Honestly seen people say that Ngannou just had a bad fight. It’s over and he has no chance in boxing
     
  4. Liam Scales

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    AJ since changing coach has been a completely different guy, he doesn’t look terrified of a punch, comitting fully into his punches because of it.

    Sinze Ruiz till he’s last 2 fights he would pull a punch, not commit, because he was terrified of taking one to the chin. Tonight his 2 knockdowns before the knockout he took a punch, whilst throwing his own better one, and brushed it off.
    2 fights only so far, but he’s been the best he’s been since Klitchko, and might actually kick on further and be the fighter he was expected to be. He * smashed that, and it’s not as easy as he made it look that. It will be talked down thiugh, because he’s a *. I want to see him fully at a peak I thought was lost to him but. Good for the division all round.


    Also, I love Parker but how did that judge get 4 * point’s ahead for him against Zhang? The other two scores was understandable, then ones got 4 ahead. * boxing man
     
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    Parker was the right decision one of the judges scored it a draw which I thought was wrong


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    Ufffty, what a punch - night night, Franny boy.
     
  8. Liam Scales

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    I thought wrong but arguable marking it a draw, I can’t see how one guy in a close fight had it 4 to Parker
     
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    He deserves nothing but respect for his approach since the Ruiz KO.

    Regaining the belts immediately from Ruiz (and winning so lopsidedly there has never been any demand for a 3rd fight). Destroying long-time contenders like Pulev and Povetkin (when Fury has always been too lazy to properly defend his belts). That win over Parker has aged excellently as well given recent events. And now completely blitzing the best heavyweight MMA has ever had to offer, whereas Tyson really struggled.
     
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    How I see it is the longer this goes on and Jake Paul inevitably gets a "win" over a practically 60 year old.. the more false confidence he will build to the point he takes on a ranked cruiserweight who has remained active and has their own ambitions of being a champion and they will eat Jake Paul alive to the point I reckon said opponent could end up taking on a toxic level of pride in their defence of "true' boxing and really want to go out there and hospitalise Jake to show him that this sport ain't for YouTubers playing pretend and it comes with very serious consequences.
     
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    The sound of this shots :88:

    I like Francis a lot. Impossible not to. You can see in his face that he didn’t want to be there after that knockdown, and the referee or his corner should’ve stopped him for his own good.

    That knockout will affect him going forward, if he fights again.
     
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    For Jake Paul? We can but hope :giggle1:

    I think he knows what he’s doing. Picking up cash while antagonising people and just generally being a bit of a *.

    He is now a ‘real boxer’ in the sense that he’s been training full time with the best resources available for years, but he’s just never going to be close to an elite. The Tommy Fury fight showed a gulf in ability between him and a domestic level fighter, who is probably a weight class smaller that roided up Jake.

    Feels harsh to say it after how well Francis did against Fury, but these kind of ‘circus’ fights do need to be careful, imo. If you’re going in with a guy with limited power who will outbox out, that’s one thing. I’m not yet convinced that people should be switching sport and going up against the hardest hitters. Feels very harsh though, as last night was a perfectly acceptable fight after Ngannou’s first showing, in some ways.
     
  13. Liam Scales

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    That is impressive but in that he got schooled twice, off a great boxer tbf definitely in Usyk but it was his boxing and style that frustrated me since the Ruiz loss, he was hesitant, wouldn’t fully commit, pull back whilst throwing punches incase of a hit back. Definitely psychological because he can take a punch, * his recovery against Wlad in the 5th or 6th round is one of the most impressive examples of managing a fight you’ll see.


    He lost his way a lot, the last 2 fights though? Aggressive, quick, committed, boxing clever, no hesitation in him.

    And that’s exactly the thing I’ve been desperate to see him doing.

    He deserves massive credit for navigating through a rough patch in the way you’ve pointed out and even taking Usyk fights into account, he took they fights, when I suspect most others in a rough patch would absolutely make sire they wouldn’t need to and dodge it.
     
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    Have to say Mike Tyson definently has a future as a coach the difference in ngannou last night compared to the fury fight when Mike was his coach was night and day


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    I don’t think he looked that different. Fury just took his fight with Ngannou very, very lightly. Even just looking at him compared to now, and there’s a massive difference in physique.

    Ngannou is quick, powerful, and solid, even took the centre of the ring again, but he’s limited, which is understandable. You can’t compensate for decades of experience and thousands of hours in a short time. There’s just levels to things.

    Joshua would’ve also had footage to study and the knowledge that it was a make or break fight for him. Professional camp, without taking anything lightly or for granted. Can’t overstate how important that footage is. The one advantage MMA fighters carry into these crossover fights is the complete uncertainty about how good they are in pure boxing - how their power carries over, can they last the pace, can they actually box well etc. tbf to Ngannou he can do all of those things to a degree, just not at this sort of level.
     
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  16. Liam Scales

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    Ngannou is also built and is used to stuff that cuts out one of Fury’s biggesr weapon, getting in close and putting his body weight on them, wearing them down, knackering them.

    Nganouu though? Strong enough to not allow him, keep him away from him or when allowing it, it not effecting him snd Francis using it as free shots to torso.

    And Fury took it very lightly as well definitely
     
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    Where was the defence for Joshua’s biggest weapon though, Francis left hand was so low from the off…

    Tyson will do well to not get ko’d off JP.
     
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    The ref should have stopped it at the first knockdown. He wasn't alert or ready to restart the fight and took that huge shot.
     
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    He switched to southpaw as well, which was crazy.

    You can get away with that in MMA because it’s his natural element, and there’s so much uncertainty in the fights as well.

    Very, very rare to see elite boxers switch in the middle of a bout and for good reason. Crazy to do it in a situation where you’re giving away so much experience to your opponent.
     
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    I don’t mind them continuing after the first tbh, but Ngannou did have the look as if to say ‘what the bell was that’ after it.

    Just glad he’s ok and we got one of the most vicious KO’s I’ve seen in combat sports, but the 2nd KD was enough for me.