Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Was that the game when he was on a yellow and should have been taken off before he was. We could have ended up with ten men that game.

 

I think that's called ABILITY, that's what the * is short off.

 

100% agree we need CCV. But scales has dealt with whats been thrown at him. He had to switch from welsh, nawrocki and CCV in some pretty big games.
The equaliser at the weekend, for me came from failing to stop the cross and a height mismatch at the back post. It wasnt on scales.

In the defeat to Killie, we were undone by two long balls where Taylor was caught far out of position. We are undone by long balls down the channel. Mcinnes knew that and tried to hit us on the counter and it worked.

 

Panic and mistakes happen with lack of organisation. Id even argue to an extent bad luck is more likely to happen with lack of organisation as well. Defence has always been Rodgers achilles heel.

 

I think it’s self-reflection and humility. He has ability, he has enough of it that he thinks what he has is the * berries and enough.

If he could identify his weaknesses and learn off the experience he’s had when they’ve been exploited and ripped apart, and worked towards improving and learning from that, he’d be an elite manager.

He’s not because he hasn’t got that.

 

He left Moussa Dembele on the pitch vs Alashkert at home for the second half when we were 3-0 up. Dembele pulled his hamstring and missed the rest of the CL qualifiers.

 

One of the biggest downfalls of Rodgers is that he is playing a system that has reduced Kyogo who many regarded as the best striker since Larsson to an average SPL striker at best. He should be going out of his way to play a system that gets the best out of Kyogo but refuses to do so. * horrendous management that is costing us the Title and £60 milllion.

 

Ange brought on Kyogo in a dead rubber against Betis and he done his hamstring. That was one of the daftest subs I’ve ever seen from a manager. Genuinely.

 

True, europe was Anges only shortcoming. Bodo games were tragic.

 

Aye 100% agree and pretty much my point, it is genuinely unbelievable how much he’s held everything together with how much he’s had to deal with a revolving door or guys being swapped in and out next to him, this is the most I’ve ever seen 2 different partnerships at CB so much within the same game, never mind match to match. And it’s been Scales + 1.


It’s starting to take a toll, and it’s notable that’s been when it’s been dealing with Taylor not there as well. He’s actually had to cover and bail out Taylor quite a few times this season but without that presence there next to him, it’s now wearing him down.


He needs CCV next to him now, he’s stood up to be counted more than anyone could have reasonably expected, he needs help now.

 

Worst thing he ever done management wise for us. But that also let GG come in to his own, and be exceptional in the run in.

However, there was about a month inbetween GG coming back from injury, and Kyogo being fit (League Cup gamble aside, that worked tbf) that was iffy. Turnbull upfront at one point and all.

Tam Rogic that December period though, he stood up and made sure he’d get us points on board. We don’t have a Rogic making sure of a win just now.

 

Hes a real warrior and a big leader in the team. Huge goal at Ibrox which helped seal the title.

For me, better organisation and positioning will help the defence. Crucial we get CCV fit and playing as well.

 

He brought Kyogo back too early as well and he got injured away at St. Johnstone. Joey Dawson up top. Still won mind you.

 

CCV’s last game before surgery, unfit, on one knee, semi final against them… under pressure, that is what CCV brings to us. He won that game for us, he was the difference. His fitness and needing surgery had brought his usual strolling it down a level, and he then made sure to win every challenge, every clearance in the box, throw himself infront of every shot.

That’s what he brings, he usually doesn’t need to get to the point he’s needing to do the full last ditch, body on the line defending but he makes sure of it that he’ll do anything to stop us conceding

 

only time he ever changed the formation to make sure of it as well. Always got accused of not being able to change it like that, and it’s the one time I can remember him really needing to do so for us to have a chance and he did.

That day was both bad management and phenomenal management


EDIT: Dawson was * good that game, wiki’d him he’s only 20 still went on loan got zero games and has a goal a game for the B team.

 

More petulant, infantile * then I see.

Ange was very good at his job so it's fairly safe to assume those were indeed bad signings. Rodgers has been very bad at his job so there has to be a degree of ambiguity.

 

Playing very well for Como apparently, done not too bad at Hallas Verona second half of the season he was here as well.

Different style and manager for a decent player, who’s good in a specific role, but just wasn’t for us at the time. In another Celtic team, under another style, he’d have been a success here.

Kobayashi played under Ange at Yokohoma on loan 2020 did he not? One guy I wouldn’t use as evidence against Mark Lawwell because of that.

Bernabei, * knows, Ange had talked about knowing that market and looking at it as well. Mark Lawwell was also Ange’s man, as well as the Celtic’s in general more than happy with a Lawwell. Mark Lawwell’s previous relationship with Ange is how Peter Lawwell was aware of him and fighting his corner for the job, and how we had him lined up as soon as Howe said no.

But again, thats the argument for a DoF. Lawwell’s son came in for the relationship with the manager, and his links to us helped majorly obviously. Then the manager leaves, where does that leave us? We need to have the background structure there to work with a manager that suits us and what we’ve put in place, what we do is try and provide a new background for every manager.

 

Just to avoid confusion, Yokohama FC and Yokohama F. Marinos are two different teams. Kobayashi spent time at the former, Ange at the latter.

 

Ahh, well * Mark Lawwell with that clarification then. I still think he was more an Ange sort of one but honestly, I don’t care either way because I want shot of Lawwell’s Jr and Sr.

And will hold my hands up in error that I wanted Jr in. Didny expect his old boy to rise from the crypt though.

I always wished for Bankier to get to * for years, and got monkey pawed with * Lawwell returning. Can’t imagine his son giving him any pushback or fighting against anything his Dad’s doing even if he disagrees. I can’t imagine that’s a dynamic that he’s been encouraged to be forthright and independent up against his old boy all his life.

 

Just read online that Rogers stats are worse then Beales when he was at sevco * sake I knew things were bad but didn't think as bad as this .

 

Beales last season when he took over was very high if I remember right, was good when there was * all he was actually capable of playing for. * when we won the league and played them, they soundly won. That was Beale. A no pressure manager screaming that means he’s a hero. That persuaded them he actually was and gave him a fair amount of money because of it.

then when it was pressure on, his own players in, suddenly he was talking about too many new players in etc. was saying that still when he blagged his way into Sunderland with Clement apparently having the pleasure of taking over when he’d got them to gel etc.


From this season, he was far away from BR. This is the important thing though, because we’re doing * all different, we’re pretty much identical points to games won from Beale being there strolling it, to being behind now when they’ve got a good manager in. He’s averaging a very high amount, more than is normally expected, to be facing.

But we haven’t raised our level in response, when we’ve had a big advantage and we have gained 6 points and them * all in the 2 games between us so far. And even then, they’re ahead.

That’s * damning.