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Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lewis Kerr, Jun 19, 2023.

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  1. KuhntryBhoy

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    One simple basic thing that's really * anoying me is, when we went 4 4 2 against St Mirren it looked quite good, then we brought on Bernado and took off a striker and it just didn't seem to work as well.

    On Saturday we did the * same. Ok the 4 4 2 on Sat wasn't brilliant, but it had us in the lead. If we were going to change the formation we should have brough Iwata on, or better still leave one of Kyogo or Idah on to play alongside Oh.

    Rodgers hasn't got a scooby, we can see it and I'm sure the players can see it.

    I reckon Lager has been binned, not for being poor in training but more likely for calling Rodgers the useless * he is.
     
  2. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Cheers. Can’t seem to copy and paste the actual Tweets the same way it always worked.
     
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    I just erased everything in your link from the ? onwards and then pasted that in. Sometimes it's from a share so has extra info in the link..can be a bit confusing sometimes!
     
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  4. JML67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    can use the 'media' tab to embed tweets, youtube videos etc
     
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    Few times I've done it recently you have to swap x.com for twitter.com in the tweet.
     
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    No bcoz he's that arrogant I think up until the last week or so he'd still coast the league, see his "see you in may" comment for proof of that.

    Tilio I'll give you, that was a dreadful signing.

    The others clearly have something, Lagerbielke Swedish defender of the year, Yang is a regular in a very good south korea squad, kwon is now performing very well in the same league we play in, Holm nominated for golden boy award.

    They are all projects and that wasn't what was required in the summer but it's what we've got. He made comments in the summer that suggested he knew that was transfer strategy and it was his job to develop them yet he's now just ditched that and is barely playing any of them bcoz he's in a huff that he didn't get the 1 or 2 players of quality he needed. That was wrong that he didn't get them but so is his reaction to it. Players worth £20m won't be developed sitting in the stands.

    Ur right in saying yang hasnt been overly impressive but neither was mickey Johnston or Maeda and they continued to play ahead of him.
    Holm didn't show any more or less than Turnbull did yet he was given far more opportunities than Holm was.

    Players can't just be dropped in and out every other month and expected to perform. They need regular game time and need to feel they have the confidence of the manger, I doubt any of them feel they do.

    We seen this the last time he was here too were he refused to play Gamboa for months when he could easily have played against bottom 6 * at home then he'd throw him in against Bayern or Psg away from home as if to send some kind of message to the board that he wasn't good enough.

    Theres no doubt part of remit in summer was to develop projects that were being brought in. Now we can debate the rights and wrongs of that all day but he knew the gig and he's failing to do it.
     
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    Woeful & Embarrassing.

    He needs to go. Plain and simple. I have no idea how a management team and player's that have blown an 8pt lead, can be expected to over turn a 2pt deficit.

    Watching that, it's clear they won't. Out fought and out though by Killie and Mcinnes...3rd time this season.

    Enough's enough.
     
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  8. thailandceltic From Immigration to Domination

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    Out-dated tactics and muddled selection leave Celtic trailing
    Brendan Rodgers’ decision to change the style of play that was so successful for Ange Postecoglou has been an act of self-harm to Celtic’s title defence


    With so many parts of Celtic underperforming right now, blame is being spread far and wide.
    But if the board and certain players again got it tight both during and in the immediate aftermath of the latest listless slip-up — a 1-1 home draw with Kilmarnock — Brendan Rodgers has thus far managed to avoid any sustained scrutiny of his output.
    We might have expected the reverse, what with a portion of the fanbase having never been supportive of the manager’s return given the circumstances of his 2019 departure, but either way, this version of Rodgers appears a pale imitation of what Celtic got first time around — certainly in the first year to 18 months of his initial term.

    Right now, the Irishman’s reputation as an elite manager is exactly that: a reputation, not an accurate reflection of his present or recent performance. As Celtic’s season teeters on the very brink of disaster — with all the signs of an impending train wreck having been visible for months — it is no exaggeration to accuse Rodgers of a failure to manage both up and down.
    Of course he has been failed by those whose primary responsibility is recruitment, but considering how central issues of control over transfers and the club’s ambitions in the market proved to a breakdown of relations between manager and board first time around, it would have been negligent in the extreme for Rodgers not to have nailed down different parameters before agreeing to come back. Yet either those guarantees were not in place, or they have not been honoured — either way, it makes the front man look weak.
    This feeds into a second issue around man-management of his players. Rodgers’ repeated calls for greater “quality” before and during the January transfer window were not misplaced, at least if he knew there was a more than decent chance of them being heeded and acted upon by the board.
    After another thoroughly unimpressive window, however, Rodgers has been left in a position of having to ask some of the very players he has effectively branded sub-standard to turn around this unfolding disaster.

    Amid a horrendous run of injuries to linchpins such as Cameron Carter-Vickers, Reo Hatate and, latterly, Alistair Johnston and Greg Taylor, Rodgers has played a bizarre game of hokey cokey with the likes of Maik Nawrocki, Gustaf Lagerbielke, Tomoki Iwata and Paulo Bernardo. Players are promoted from nowhere (Stephen Welsh, Lagerbielke) then sometimes disappear from view just as quickly (Lagerbielke and Iwata). It all feels very flimsy and tentative.
    Ego has always been simultaneously one of Rodgers’ biggest strengths and a fatal flaw. When operating at his best, the former Liverpool and Leicester City manager has the force of personality and the strength of conviction to transform a whole environment. He has — or at least had — that rare ability to improve players, imbuing them with confidence.
    On the flip side, however, Rodgers’ total belief in his own ability, even his own righteousness, can lead him to acts of self-harm such as completely changing the style of a side who had romped to a treble weeks before he arrived and where recruitment had been based on an up-tempo, high-pressing approach of all-out attack under Ange Postecoglou.
    Bar a handful of standout performances — the 4-1 win at Tynecastle back in October, a 6-0 thrashing of Aberdeen the following month, and two impressively-constructed derby successes — Celtic have been a side held prisoner by an obsession with retaining possession.
    It is football from 15 years ago being attempted by players who often appear at a loss as to what it is they are actually being asked to do. With 71 per cent of possession at the weekend, Celtic managed five shots on target, to Kilmarnock’s six. While trying to walk it into the opposition net, they are routinely tripping up.
    Without Hatate, there is no midfielder given to attempt a killer pass, and none of the many wingers appear willing or capable when it comes to hitting the byline and flashing across those low deliveries on which Kyogo Furuhashi used to feast.
    The campaign has already seen any number of “kick up the backside” moments and the response has been either fleeting or non-existent. Again, this can only reflect badly on Rodgers and his ability to raise a consistent tune from the most expensively assembled orchestra in the land. So often he has spoken post-match about a lack of tempo, only for the same deficiency to materialise again the following week.

    In-game, meanwhile, his substitutions often have the feel of being by rote — a winger here, one of the middle three there. Having played a major role in fostering the rise of Callum McGregor, it is inconceivable that Rodgers believes the captain is best utilised sitting ten yards in front of the centre backs, shuttling endless tame passes back and forth with whichever pair have appeared that day.
    With Matt O’Riley badly off the boil in the wake of the January speculation linking him with a move to Atletico Madrid, there is surely some merit in pushing him and McGregor back into the twin No 8 berths with Iwata underpinning things in that quarterback role.
    It is now at the stage where Rodgers must try something, anything, because this season can only end one way if his approach remains the same. Indeed, even if Rodgers were to somehow turn the tide and land the club’s third successive title, it is hard to see how he can convince supporters that he really is a man in the right movie second time around.
    A summer parting of ways already feels likely, and will quickly become inevitable unless Rodgers shows both the desire and the ability to change.
     
  9. Ryanm1984

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    Again, I genuinely think they wanted to. The Lawwells wanted Maresca and looked like we're close to it only for that auld * Desmond to stick his * nose in and make a decision that should have absolutely * all to do with him
     
  10. Peter T. Lawwell Esq Chairman of Celtic FC PLC

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    The sad part for me is that we don't have a manager capable of getting the best out of our players while we are able to attract stars like Norwich reject Adam Idah.
     
  11. thailandceltic From Immigration to Domination

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    That article I posted is 100% bang on the money..

    Hes outdated, stubborn, boring and quite frankly full of *
     
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    You're right if we ignore he was here before and left partly because the same board we have now, didn't back him then. He really is an idiot and to blame for coming back and expect the same guys to act differently :giggle1:
     
  13. JamesM09

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    He’s got to go at the end of the season.

    We’re allegedly paying him £3m per year.

    With that type of salary on offer we can definitely get someone better.
     
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    Sadly I think there’s no way the board sack him now.
     
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    Oooh nevertried that!
     
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    This is exactly the useless crap I've seen since day one
     
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    Absolutely none.. Neil Lennon mk2
     
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