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Kyogo Furuhashi

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lebo, Jul 16, 2021.

Discuss Kyogo Furuhashi in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Jeannie960 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I still think that it's down to his lack of understanding of what BR wants him to do. He's been really unsettled since BR took over. Didn't even crack a smile yesterday. Just doesn't look the same player under BR
     
  2. Ryanm1984

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    He's 5 foot 7 and is hiding behind 2 6 foot 3 centre backs, 2 yards offside.

    Don't care who you are nobody is getting that ball to him and even if they do what's the * point as he's offside.

    Not once did he show for it into feet.

    Earlier on in the season he was showing into feet and midfielders were going beyond into the space he created, it's a pretty basic tactic but it's an essential one when playing against low blocks. Now he's not doing it and it's not a coincidence that o'rileys goals have dried up.
     
  3. AdamRS Gold Member Gold Member

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    Kyogo has always had an issue with not being involved with the game but usually pops up with a goal or two so got away with it. I’ve always had an issue with that myself as i prefer a striker like Edouard who was always focal point in our game and got involved constantly.
     
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  4. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    The style hasn't helped and maybe he's not clicked as much with rodgers, fhese things happen.

    But I still think Kyogo himself needs to do more.
     
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  5. Celtic_Daft1888

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    This is a genuine problem amongst the support right now.

    Some people will die on the hill of defending certain players when they're not pulling their weight, instead choosing to blame other factors like Rodgers.

    Scales and Kyogo are two at the minute who aren't good enough/doing enough but are defended in here. Seen some guy get accused of hating Scales yesterday, all for saying he thought he needed to be quicker with his distribution from the back. It's getting beyond ridiculous now. Some fans are genuinely not allowed to share an opinion.

    Kyogo has to do more. It's as simple as that. Are there external factors that aren't helping him? Absolutely. There are external factors that aren't helping Brendan Rodgers but the same fans defending Kyogo for these seem to ignore the Rodgers issues.

    I wonder why?
     
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  6. G_portillo

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    Fans need to remember that they are talking about a 25 goal a season striker and we cant get him involved in the play.

    If it were just him that was in poor form, id understand the scrutiny. But so many of our forward players are off it.

    I can see him leaving in the summer and i dont blame him. The fact that Rodgers was asking him to come into the 10 position for a few games, similar to what Tottenham asked Kane to do for a short time, tells me he doesnt know what to do with him.

    Whatever his future, we need to get him playing and scoring if we want to win the league.
     
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  7. DonnyCelt

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    Rodgers has ruined him.
     
  8. oh bhoy

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    see you know fine well the ball isnt coming to him and you know the reason its a difficult ball to play instead of a 5 yard pass sideways or backwards .having kyogo run to the center of the field to gather a ball to give it right back to the cb's is a waste of his talent and effort
     
  9. Celtic_Daft1888

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    Genuinely, if asking Kyogo to drop deeper to link up play to create space for runners in behind is a waste of his talents, he's not got much talent in the first place because it's not difficult.

    We aren't asking him to drop 50 yards and dribble past 11 men and chip the goalkeeper, here. We are asking him to be more involved in the build up in the final third.

    Should the ball be coming to him quicker? Yes, it absolutely should but the system isn't the problem. The intensity of the play is slow from the players on the pitch. Scales was so slow with his distribution and we can't see to get a consistent run of form for any of our wingers. That's hampering Kyogo as much as anything.

    He's also missed a bundle of chances this year. And his attitude yesterday was frighteningly bad. 3 on 1 in the final few minutes and his lackadaisical attitude nearly cost us 3 points.

    If he won't/can't do what is asked of him, we will find someone who can.
     
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  10. neilly1987 Do I look happy? Do I look settled? Gold Member

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    Don't understand why everything has to be a black and white argument. The system is nullifying him and he's also needing to do more they don't have to be mutually exclusive.

    I just want a striker who's playing well and scoring, whether that's him in this system or a tweaked one or someone else.
     
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  11. PaddyJamieson

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    Just does not suit Rodgers' style at all, and to be honest looks like he doesn't have a * clue how to play in a Rodgers team.
     
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    It's coming to him bcoz he's not moving.

    You claim it's a waste of his talent and effort yet it's a basic task performed by just about every single striker the world over.

    Standing around waiting for others to put the ball on a plate for him 2 yards from goal for a tap in is what kris boyd use to do. It's not a * talent
     
  13. oh bhoy

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    the two yard tap ins are what win games not passing the ball back to your defence .
     
  14. oh bhoy

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    just gonna ignore the fact he scored two screamers v sevco to win thoes games for us ,its amazing can happen if we actually get the ball to him
     
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    We are going round in circles here mate.

    He needs to do more, standing around doing * all is why he's only scored 11 goals this season and why he can't make the Japanese squad.

    Football moves on, managers change its up to the players if they fit into the managers sytyem or not.
     
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    I'm not ignoring anything. You're actually making my point for me.

    The goal at Celtic Park was literally because he dropped deep, which allowed Maeda to run in behind and create some space for him. He put a screamer into the top bin but had he passed the ball to Maeda, it would/should have ended up a goal anyway.

    So, aye. All you've done there is highlight my point.
     
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  17. oh bhoy

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    he was on the edge of the box ! and thats as deep as he needs to be
     
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    I'm actually quite surprised he hasn't looked for a move... He's clearly not being properly utilised under Rodgers style, and seems far less happy... I hope this doesn't seem racist, but I think if it wasn't for the Japanese style of accepting a bosses authority, and he'd been a European, he'd have forced a transfer...

    Just wish we'd be speculative with him a few times a game... A run to the byeline, faster passes into spaces in front of him or a longer ball over the top... He'd be first to it, and it'd put genuine fear into the defenders and put them all further back, draw back their midfield too and get the pressure off our shaky defence/keeper situation
     
  19. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    Rodgers’ style of play doesn’t create enough cut back openings which he thrived on under Ange. He’s a quality player and he’s proven it often for us but he might just not be the best fit with Rodgers as manager.
     
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    I said it in pre-season, even though Kyogo is the better player, if he had a steady run of games I think Oh (or a player like him) would get more joy in a Rodgers team, someone with a bit of strength that can lean into defenders and receive the ball with their back to goal.