Matt O'Riley

So brendan rodgers says matt o'riley is going nowhere.

Must be true then.

 

Unlike his manager

 

He went on to allude to his value not being met.. if they came in with loan with 30mill pounds in summer youd imagine hed be on m-celt enroute to Madrid

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Honestly, I’m not convinced he’d have left like he did first time round if we as a club backed him properly like we should have. I was terribly bitter at the time, the way it went down, but writing was on the wall.

There’s a forced to accept amount of money. If they hit back with £40m, we would immediately accept, it’s also important that O’Riley knows that we’re treating him with respect that we’re not just blackwalling any contact to do with him, if they put in a bid we can’t ignore, it also means they are desperate for him and view him as a key acquisition that they need, that they will pay him as such and that he will further his career both professionally and off the pitch to such a greater extent, he needs to know we give him the respect of taking all that sort of stuff into account for us as a club and for him as a person.

He’s shown us a * of a lot of respect here, we need to reciprocate.

 

If he goes for £20m + in the summer i’ll not grumble either I think mate, depending on what club we accept it from and if it’s upfront £20m in one whack no add ons. If that’s Atletic Madrid I think that’d be as showing a bit of loyalty back to him, if he stays and gets the league over the line and bringing in £60m odd from the CL qualification. I’d be more than happy with that.

If it was a club that isn’t such an exceptional career move for him, then yes I’d want £25m upwards. But I’d be demanding 10% of the next fee out of any of they deals. Because going to somebody like AM, his next move is feasibly the likes of City or Liverpool. Liverpool have always had an eye on him due to the scouting system they use, as have Brighton and Borussia Dortmund.

 

Most certainly not.. it's what the model is all about .. the jota fee is there to be broken just like the Tierney fee was there to be broken before it

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Brendan Rodgers has hammered home the message Matt O’Riley is not for sale during the January transfer window.

The Celtic boss revealed Atletico Madrid’s bid –believed to be around £20m – for the playmaker was way below the clubs’ valuation. But he insisted the Parkhead club are not looking to cash in on O’Riley right now at any price. Rodgers – who will be without crocked Greg Taylor for at least a fortnight – said: “Matt is a player we don’t want to lose and he won’t be going anywhere in January.

‘He is very much part of what we are doing. He has been a joy to work with and I had a good chat with Matt this morning and he is someone who will be here for us in the second part of the season. It’s one of the things I have been really impressed with Matt, his mentality, his professionalism and the respect he has for Celtic.

“He had an opportunity in the summer but he was very happy to extend here and obviously Atletico Madrid is a huge club but he also knows he is in a great place here. He has really kicked on this season and he wants to continue with that.

“We have no want to sell and no need to and he will be here for the second part of the season. I’m not sure (if there will be more bids) but it doesn’t really matter, he is not someone we want to sell.

“Firstly, you have a value of the player and certainly what has come in for Matt in the time I have been here is nowhere near the valuation of the quality of player he is. But even if it was we are in a position where we don’t want to sell.”

Rodgers held crunch talks with O’Riley yesterday morning and was left convinced the Denmark cap is content with Celtic’s decision not to sell to the La Liga powerhouses. He said: “Listen, I could have ignored it. But I pulled him in this morning and we had a good chat about it.

“I like to be open with the player so they understand the feeling. But him and I have been like that from the first day. That is coaching, that is management. It’s that relationship between the coach and the coaches.

“And you have to have that, I think, to get the best out of players. So he understands totally and knows where he is at. He’s had it before in the summer and has seen the progress he’s made since then.

“It’s flattering when it’s a real prestigious club of the European game. And he’s had the experience pf working against them and seeing it. But he’s real sensible guy with a lot of common sense.

“He knows how he has developed and what we want him for in the second half of the season. Every single player has a value and everyone knows the club and the club’s model. But there is no need at this point to do it

“Listen, it’s great for Matt in terms of his he’s developing and improving that a team of that calibre are interested in him. But I’m pretty sure he’ll get his rewards later on, whether it’s here or elsewhere. But at this moment in time he’s developing really well.

“He’s become a full International and a top Champions League club with resources are keen to take him. But I think he also knows he’s at a massive club here.”

 

I honestly think he will still be a Celtic player when the window shuts. Even if AM met whatever valuation we apparently have, I think both player and manager are enjoying working with each other and Brendan has really elevated his game. Matt is a very smart lad and at least another 6 months of working with Brendan will appeal to him massively.

The naive me thinks he could even be persuaded at another crack at the CL before moving on.

 

£40 Million minimum if he goes in he summer.
Will stil have 4 years on his contract, young with massive potential, dedicated to getting better and sounds like his parents keep his feet on the ground. Just hope his life coach he spoke about is on the same page.
And £40 million down south buys mediocre pish,

 

We won’t get £40m. But we should push for £30m and a sell on fee as well.

If he goes on to become a top player, and makes that fee seem small, then next guy is £40m.

It’s like Van Dijk’s success, let us demand £25m for KT.

Van Dijk was the highest level player clearly, not even close how obvious it was he was destined for the top, top level. We got £12m for him then, and now we can point to him and say £25m for the next guy, or £75m in a couple years like Van Dijk

 

We got robbed for Van * at that price. We shouldn't be using previous player sales as a benchmark for prices anyway. He's got all the attributes to go to the top, Athletico Madrid know this too, and they seen him up close. So we should be charging £40 million on a very good prospect with 4 years left on contract

 

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Even with the sell on fee we got robbed, ended up £21m for him all in. We sold him the season after Stones went to City for £50m, I was working in England at the time and got slaughtered for saying Van Dijk for about £10m is a better player for a pittance compared to that.

When he signed for £75m for Liverpool I still talked to a couple of the boys down there, tried to rub it in, they coodny remember. Was raging

But Van Dijk raised our prices to demand, Frimpong when he goes will be another we can point to. Porto, Benfica, Ajax all do it, because who they’ve sold before and it’s been exceptional. Regardless of how many go for big money and fail now, they won’t be phased by that. We still are at a stage we need performances, especially being in Scotland selling to EPL, the disrespect to our league is insane. Serie A respecting it now though, it’ll keep going up now, Lewis Ferguson being linked to Juve £20m, captain for Bologna. Ange’s reputation and praise for us, and talking up the league, that * adds millions.

Tierney briefly being rated that highly for Arsenal and now considered class but unlucky with injuries, the class part of that helps us so much. Scotland in Tournys, and guys we’ve developed or helped develop playing well, its all helpful towards us negotiating

 

It's not so much using previous fees as a benchmark, more that when you get a reputation as a club that produces good players then you can you can start to haggle on the price.

There's also the EPL home grown tax.

A progressive club would sit the lad down tomorrow, stick a new contract in front of him for 40/50k a week, ask him to win the league, another crack at the CL and a release clause of 30 mill kicking in Jan 2025.

Or he could bolt tomorrow and triple his wages and live in a warm climate. Who knows?

 

All that’s needed is a couple of outstanding examples like Van Dijks one, and if Frimpong goes to Madrid like has been consistently linked for a year or so, and does well. With him talking up how good we were for his career, that’ll be another one to point to, that’s all it takes to up fees a large amount. The jump between Wanyama Van Dijk to Tierney, Dembele, Eddy and Ajer? That’s down to showing may as well spend £10m more direct to us, rather need a lot more to another club in your own league a year or two later. It’s so important our successful guys do well at the top level when they go, Ange doing it for Spurs and constantly talking us up, that’s priceless man.

Compare him talking about us, to BR at Leicester saying he’s a Celtic man and if that was the only thing he wouldn’t be but needed a challenge, belittling his achievements while here. Ange talks up the league, the club, the challenge and doesn’t allow it talked down what he done here. Will go out his way to point out what he done, that gains respect for the league and us. We desperately * need that

 

I think our fanbase overestimates the draw of this. Not because the CL itself isn’t the elite club competition (it clearly is) but because we haven’t actually had a crack at it in years.

We’ve participated, but we’ve looked miles out of our depth.

 

I'm someone who honestly doesn't really get why a player would leave Celtic for Southampton, Bournemouth, etc; but Atletico Madrid, man, it's a huge club (in the same size range as Arsenal or Spurs) in the second best league in the world, under one of the best coaches in the world, in front of some of the best fans in the world in one of the best new stadiums in the world and living in one of the best cities in the world (as I can attest from personal experience).

I can't thank him enough for seeing the season out. I'm a Celtic fan and I genuinely don't know if I would tell them to wait 6 months if I were in his place.

 

Keeping players like Matt another 12 months might actually help bridge the gap though.

 

For sure. Not just for Matt, but anyone of similar ability who has left over the past few years.

The problem is, they’re all going to be asking themselves if another crack at the CL is anything other than us turning up and getting thumped. If there was a club wide ambition to really push on and compete at that level I could maybe see it (although Athletico is still a * of a move), but I was O’Reilly I would be asking myself what evidence there was that this time would be different, and struggling to find any.

 

A handful of champions league games is nice, but I think the overall quality of our league is always going to play a bigger part in guys moving on after a few years, as a developing player what does O'Riley really gain from another season playing against this standard week in week out now that's he's really showing his potential, he'll want to be challenging himself more on a regular basis.