Gustaf Lagerbielke

That I'm not bothered by going to weaker teams in what is a pretty strong league, relatively speaking, especially when it comes to defenders or GKs.

After all, the weaker the team, the more reliance they are on defenders, more work for them having to do, more involved they have to be, more practice in matches, to weed out the kinks in techniques, learn from mistakes or work out how to compensate - for example a lack of pace compensate by reading the game better and anticipate to get into position earlier etc...ultimately to get better... and will only improve them as players and the team playing for and improve his personal value as well, by showcasing all of his attributes, it's not a bad thing. After all, at Celtic, with so many teams sitting deep and hitting on the counter as we dominate possession, but when it comes to Europe that is not the case so much.

Same why so many wingers, for example, are attracted by the prospect to come to a club like Celtic, because we do have so much of the ball, which means there are more opportunities for wingers to have the ball at their feet to show what they can do with it. They might only get one or two chances a game at a club that don't have as much possession but here, they cn try things, and even if something doesnt come off they know they'll get another chance with the ball and make something happen without dwelling on it too much during the game.

But totally agree with your final assessment though. If he is to leave, loan is the best bet, and not write off whatever we forked out for him plus writing off 4 1/2 more years, which indicates he was bought for long term, not necessarily the finished article this season. For all we know before Nawrocki, CCV and Welsh all went down in the space of a week, the plan mayve been to send him out on loan somewhere this season anyhow.

 

Still cant get my head around this one.
We sign 2 Center half's for over 7M, only to realize that both Scales and Welsh are as good.

 

They're 13th in Italy. I think it's a great move for him and for us.

Agree with everything else.

 

Lecce are just below midtable the now. Sitting 13th.

I'm not sure. If he goes and performs well for them, we may be able to get a better price for him that we paid, especially if he performs well in Serie A for half the season. I wouldn't want an agreed fee between the clubs though, a straight up loan. If he does well, more will be interested.

He's not been as bad as some have made out but he hasn't been great either. Potential needs to be nurtured and he needs to play and I don't think he's going to do that here. Does he show any more potential than Welsh or Scales or Nawrocki? I'm not sure he does, which means he's bottom of the pile right now for minutes on the pitch.

If he's not going to play, loan him out and get him more experience. I don't think his future is here though.

 

Scales maybe, on current form. I have no faith in Welsh to be anything but a depth option and he’s made of glass.

 

There is surely some irony to write him off so early, and then compare him to 2023/2024 Liam Scales as an argument..

 

If I’m writing him off early and he ends up contributing then I’ll be delighted, but from the limited time we’ve seen him, he just looks nowhere near it.

Some of the * he got up to at Ibrox was absolutely baffling, but we got the clean sheet so it’s forgotten about.

Not saying it’s easy to come in and start at centre half for us, not even saying it’s his fault, but has done nothing to suggest he’s up to it.

Rodgers sees him every day in training. I also think the theory of players having a slow start then suddenly coming good is a myth. You could count on one hand the amount of times it’s happened in the last 20 years.

Kelvin Wilson, Zurawski, now I’m struggling. It rarely happens.

 

GG more recently

 

Don’t think he was ever that bad at the start to be honest.

His * penalty against Livingston is just a lot of people’s initial impression of him.

 

I honestly don't think he's been that bad mate.

The game at Ibrox I can't remember any glaring errors although I might be wrong. What I do remember about that game was that we defended brilliantly as a team in the second half and lagerbielke was part of that.

 

He was all over the shop mate. From a positional sense and in his distribution.

At one point when we were under the cosh in the second half he tried to chip the ball to Ralston and it landed about 10 feet away from him.

Their disallowed goal was a foul but it doesn’t take away from the fact he dallied on it for about 5 seconds.

Not saying it’s an easy game to go in to, and anyone can make mistakes, but there was so many things to be concerned about.

 

I don't think he's been that bad, either. He needs to play though and he's not going to do that here.

 

Aye, I take your point on the disallowed goal although he was fouled, rest of the game I thought he was ok. Since then I think he's been ok without being a stand out.

The emergence of Scales this year probably limits his game time anyway with nawrocki ahead of him as well.

 

Very decent player in the making, needs game time. was also getting a game for Sweden ahead of Starfelt
hope we loan rather than sell.

 

John Hartson, Lustig, Scales etc.

 

Henrik, Craig Gordon, Petrov, Christie, McGregor, Rogic?

 

Wit?

 

Mulgrew, Ki, Ajer, Taylor... yeah... list goes on.

 

Totally agree Dan, it beggars belief but if they are deemed not good enough then move them on, no point paying them good money to sit around doing * all..