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Scott McKenna

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by The Thumb, Dec 31, 2023.

Discuss Scott McKenna in the Transfer Rumours area at TalkCeltic.net.

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  1. Blochairnbhoy

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    Think the fee for jozo was overinflated by the Zagreb chairmen think it was actually about £3m
     
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  2. Celtic_Daft1888

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    I guess it would depend on where we are.

    For example, I look at the team we have now and with O’Riley, Abada, Hatate, CCV, Nawrocki, Scales, Palma.. guys in their early twenties to mid twenties who are going to bet us a good amount of profit so if we went and paid £7m for a 27 year old now, I wouldn’t be against it.

    The club should always have a batch of younger players who can continue to develop with the hope of selling them on for profit. I think we do have a good batch of older professionals in the team right now with McGregor, Kyogo, Hart and Taylor… so you have a good bit of experience in there but wouldn’t be against bringing them in when we do have younger players that we are hoping to see progress with. Even players like Oh, Yang and Holm have the ability to progress if given the time.
     
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  3. littlekennie

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    Rangers will try get him on a free in the summer


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  4. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I don't understand why fans care as much about things like this anyway.

    £7m won't bust us and it's none of our jobs to balance the books.

    Peter Lawwell has brainwashed us man.
     
  5. Celtic_Daft1888

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    Fans should be interested in that sort of things for a variety of different reasons.

    It could and should be the main way in which the club consistently develops and progresses.
     
  6. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    £7m for a 27 year old player who would improve us isn't a mental idea though. Still 3 years before they even turn 30 and 3 opportunities to push us towards UCL qualification each year.

    I'd argue we miss 2 or 3 players like that. If anything.

    I'm not saying we ignore our "sign young" policy entirely.

    There's too much focus on profit and for me it's stifled us rather than developed us as a club recently. Particularly when we already have about £100m in the bank.

    As a Joe Bloggs fan I want the best team on the park to watch and I trust that if we did sanction such signings we'd know it wouldn't send us spiralling into debt.
     
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  7. Celtic_Daft1888

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    I never once suggested in was a mental idea. I simply said that, depending on what sort of situation the team is in, depends on whether or not I think we should sign a 27 year old for £7m.

    There are always going to be players available for far less than that who can make an impact and are experienced. The clubs we want to emulate, the vast majority of their big purchases have been younger players. It's not a mental idea to spend larger on younger players and find older players for a little bit cheaper, who haven't quite worked out in other leagues. Of course, there will still be some players that we would need to spend a decent amount of money on, like Julien, who are experienced

    If we look at Ajax, who are the absolute pinnacle of what we, as a club, are trying to achieve, out of their top 20 biggest purchases, only 4 of them were the age of 27 or over when they signed. Daley Blind at £16m was 28, Quincy Promis at £15m was 27, Dusan Tadic at £14m was 29 and Davy Klaassen at 29 was £11m.

    You then look at their biggest sales, which has allowed them to be extremely competitive in the market, while operating in a league outside of the Big 4/5, only 2 players out of the top 30 have been over 27 when sold. Hakim Ziyech to Chelsea for £40m was 27 and Sebastian Haller to Dortmund for £30m was 28.

    Saying "we have £70m in the bank already", like some of us are celebrating it is strictly not true. I want us to be the best we can be but we can also do that by picking up younger players who have shown vast amounts of experience. Albert Gronbaek is 22, he's played over 170 games for Bodo and Aarhus.. By comparison, someone like Jullien.. he had 218 appearances before he signed for Celtic. Was he the man who was giving us experience in the back line?

    It depends on what you think is experience but just because a player is 22 instead of 27, doesn't mean they lack experience. It's just we aren't picking up the right youngsters or the more experienced youngsters, like we should be.
     
  8. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I agree with what you're saying. We are spending money in the wrong areas too often. OK we may not exactly have 70m in the bank but you know where I'm coming from, we aren't accountants. We are definitely flush as a club.

    I suppose my point is whether they're 22 or 27 I'm no really arsed what we spend as long as we think they will put us up a level or at least help improve the side. Julienn, granted we didn't get £7m worth out of but I still liked the idea of the signing and had actually suggested him on here.

    Big issue is I don't trust our scouts.
     
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    By getting rid of Kobayashi means we need to bring in a left sided CB and it's McKenna for nowt I think we should be all over it. He knows the Scottish game and according to people he's improved down south plus he's desperate to be part of the Scotland team going to Germany I think it's something Celtic should seriously consider.
     
  10. We named the dog Indiana Gold Member Gold Member

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    Would he improve us is always my question for someone that age? I'd say no so it'll be a pointless signing.
     
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  11. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Peak age for a CB..

    He's a leader too.. Scottish, Tim etc..

    Currently better than all our CBs apart from CCV..

    Admittedly Scales wouldn't deserve to be dropped.. Nawrocki may surpass him..

    Probably an area we don't need to strengthen but I'd be delighted if we got him.
     
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    Do you really believe he'd be better than scales ? I didn't rate him at Aberdeen honest to *. Even the games I seen him at forest I thought he's a championship player.....granted that's pretty few games for both Aberdeen and forest. Scotland I didn't think he looked very good either.
     
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  13. Mr Hoopy

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    Why is this thread still open when we have distanced ourselves from this player...
     
  14. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Be interested to see where?
     
  15. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Scales has done superbly but aye, I think he's more dominant than Scales. He'd definitely be a good option.. probably won't happen tho.
     
  16. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Only according to the Record..
     
  17. Mr Hoopy

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    True mate but not seeing anywhere else that we are interested.

    It's eerily quiet on the transfer front so far...
     
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    We are spending too little on too many, is probably my wider point. We seemed to manage to pick up the best players from smaller leagues than our own less than 10 years ago, without question and now we seem to be struggling to pick up the very best talent from South Korea and Norway.

    I've never had a problem spending the money we spend. £20m would have been more than adequate for me in the summer. I just feel as if there are far too many instances where we try and spend in that range of £1.5m-£2m, in the hope of landing a ridiculous gem, like O'Riley. We really don't need to either.
     
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    Has someone from celtic distanced us? Publicly?

    Until that or he signs somewhere else it'll be open.
     
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    We are reportedly looking to loan out Gustaf. If so, I'd expect us to sign a replacement. McKenna seems like an obvious target. I think he'd be a nice addition to the squad. Wouldn't be surprised if he ended up a regular starter alongside CCV. He's left-footed as well, just like Scales.

    left side: McKenna, Scales
    right side: CCV, Welsh
    both: Nawrocki

    Seems like a balanced 5-man rotation at centre half.
     
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