Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

He has had a good start to the season. He is middle of the road though.

 

Rodgers got sacked in his last job due to a slump in form and poor league position. At Liverpool, with us and at Leicester he has overseen poor recruitment, poor organisation in defence and poor european performances.

He undeniably has had strong spells where he is deserving of praise.

But there are recurring recurring issues and flaws in his set up, organisation and one dimensional style of play that have arisen throughout his managerial career.

This isnt an overnight thing. Its a refusal to adapt and evolve his tactics.

Edit: for what its worth, I do also feel that the incompetence of the board and poor recruitment has compounded our problems, but I still believe that Rodgers should still be performing a lot better.

 

This is what I find baffling about it all. This is why I can’t understand why there isn’t more anger.

We’ve already been through this with these players. There’s nothing new here.

Like how the * are we playing all these players again? I’ve genuinely never seen anything like it.

I just can’t get my head around how people still support the strategy. We left it behind in Ange’s first season and everything worked beautifully - we even made the massive profits from player sales.

But somehow we’re back to the old strategy.

Someone posted the list above - all players 23 or under. * incredible.

 

He has done enough since the start of the season to show that he is now better than middle of the road.

 

Fair enough. But let's not forget that we buy SPFL players once in a while. Turnbull has his uses. We're heavily linked with Miovski. Could it work? Maybe. I think tactics are crucial, moreso than player quality alone.

For example, Yang would be far more suited to a counterattacking team than this drugged-up abomination we're doing now. I'd see if St. Mirren, Aberdeen etc. need a winger loaned.

 

You think we should play counterattacking football domestically?

 

Agreed. He's not the player we should be aiming for at centre back though. He's shown he's far better than most in the league at CB but I still don't think he's good enough to be a regular starter for us, in all honesty.

 

Much quicker transition, certainly. For example, that one ball that Scales played to Furuhashi against Feyenoord which set a 1 on 1 up- I'd want that to be very common. A long pass into space is the best pass, given our forwards. And inviting pressure seems weird, but we'd need to practice handling it for the next time we are again in Europe.

 

I'm just sick to death of seeing the "Rodgers says he signs off all signings" without allowing a single shred of context with that statement.

The simple point is he's using players that Postecoglu wouldn't even have used because he has no choice.

 

Feyenoord don't set up to play the same way teams like Hearts of Kilmarnock do, * sake. Counter attack doesn't work against a * low block.

 

I agree that at the start of the season he probably wasnt high on the list. But he has come on leaps and bounds.

At one time people would have said we should be looking at more established quality than Ajer. But we gave him a chance and he showed potential and developed.

Scales was played due to necessity as we were blighted by injury.

He came in and has shown as much as, if not more than any of our other options and so he is deserving of his place.

He has shown up well in some very big games, namely in our win at Ibrox. Dont lose sight of that.

If we could bring in better quality in any position, im fully supportive of that. We should always be looking to improve. But dont make Scales a scapegoat, he isnt even close to being top of the list of issues at the moment.

 

According to Paul Larkin.

Ange approached the club early this year and said I want a budget to have a crack at Europe. Club rebuked it. We have work to do to upgrade barrowfield and Lennoxtown. Barrowfield starts in December and lennoxtown is next summer (2024). He was told he will have £15m to spend. He instructed his agent to get him a new club. Contrary to belief he fought tooth and nail for that spurs job. If he didn’t get it I personally believe he would have walked. He hasn’t * about in the past. Lawwell wanted a young progressive coach Larkin thinks so he could control him with his boy. Not sure about that but the form is there I suppose Ronny being an example. That didn’t work tho so doesn’t totally make sense. My logic with Lawwell and his boy is that they probably wanted Maresca with the City link.
In any event Desmond stepped in and done his usual. Rodgers is the only man for the job here. He was being installed and was agreed before the end of the last season. The lawwells then had to get to work signing the players so that Rodgers didn’t get a chance to buy who he wanted. What sense that makes is beyond my thinking because you are playing championship manager. The key thing is that they said to Rodgers that Ange had rubber stamped these signings which he of course hadn’t. That is the key statement. That is criminal. Explains the low key entrance and demeanour of Rodgers and possibly the departure of his number 2 who possibly was thinking the same as a lot of people. Why are you walking back into a club you know won’t back you?
Rodgers didn’t want to rock the boat early doors so has been left in a situation for months where he had to buy credit with the fans before stating his true feelings which is the players we have signed are not good enough. The team and bench yesterday would indicate that. Hardly a summer signing near it.

Whether this is true or not it looks logical. Impeccable source was mentioned. Things haven’t been right since the day he walked in and results usually bring these things to a head. It’s going to be an interesting few weeks.

Incidentally Turnbull is desperate to leave. He is on £18k a week and he wants out the door. He was offered a new deal last season and knocked it back. He will be away hopefully in January, anyone doesn’t want to stick around should GTF immediately.

 

Teams set up a low block because we hog possession. Skipping the build-up through the midfield would do wonders for us. Yes, there'd be more possession for the opposition- but that means they will surge forward and not be in their block any more.

 

100%. far too many needless passes into midfield and lateral passes across the pitch. Not nearly enough passes ahead of players and into space to run into.

Get the ball moved quick and down the wings and exploit the space before the defence can get set.

 

He has and that has to be commended. He's worked incredibly hard and he makes the squad, as a whole, much better.

I think he will remain a very good part of our squad going forward but I think that there are limitations to his game, which were apparent yesterday. Thought he was excellent against Feyenoord and fully deserving of his man of the match award. He's not an upgrade on Starfelt, is what I would say.

 

I'm not convinced he's ever been a top manager. He failed at Liverpool and was sacked and took Leicester from champions a few years before and a top 6 team when he got there to relegation. With us first time round he had absolutely no competition - the huns had just been promoted and were so * they finished 3rd in Rodgers first season and we had by far the best players in the league by a much bigger distance than now. Despite that we were regressing every year he was here, the style of football was getting worse and worse and our performances in Europe were mostly dire with a few exceptions. This time round he's been found out as our players though better than the rest of the league aren't far enough ahead to hide the deficiencies in his management.

 

If you have an owner who's never present, promising you the world without being involved himself, you can see why things would go badly.

if that's true. I'm not so sure it is. I think there are personal reasons why Rodgers came back. He's a Celtic fan and I think he wanted to be loved again. Win up here? You'll be loved. I'm not entirely sure he came here for the right reasons.