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Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lewis Kerr, Jun 19, 2023.

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  1. Ryanm1984

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    Gets a bit of slack due to the dreadful recruitment not just in the summer but over the last 18 months.

    However that style of play is * atrocious and it's very familiar to what we seen in his final season with us altho I suppose that was also off the back of a * dreadful transfer window.

    His general style of play has been full backs bombing forward, ball playing centre backs, powerfull runners in midfield, creative wide players and generally a strong physical striker to play off of.

    Arguably we have absolutely none of that. This window is huge.
     
  2. John Bhoy79 Stop the world I want to get off!

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    Presumably thinks he's more suited to that style of football. Regardless, Bernardo hasn't done anything to warrant a start since he arrived whether in Europe or domestically.
     
  3. HTG "I have an uncle who does Yoga"

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    The board are 100% part of the mess we're currently in. As stated above, only Palma is really good enough to play for us long term, I think Nawrocki and Holm could, giving time, but the rest are miles off it.

    Our windows under Ange during his second season were dreadful too, the difference is he made us look good enough domestically that it didn't matter. Rodgers, so far, is miles off that.

    Kwon, Yang, Tilio and Bernardo were dreadful signings, absolutely dreadful, and I'd be astonished if any of those players were scouted or picked by Rodgers.
     
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  4. murphy88

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    What did you think about Rodgers football in the first couple of seasons he was at Leicester? Or the first couple of seasons he was with us first time?

    On both instances, the board then didn’t back him after that. Did the football get worse? For both? Undoubtedly. Was the football an issue in the first few years? Absolutely not.
     
  5. Mickmac Gold Member Gold Member

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    That's what I thought.
     
  6. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Whilst I agree irs his job it can be argued that there's isn't much he can do outside of a transfer window. If there's a host of players he doesn't like or has been saddled with I don't personally think it's that simple to turn all that around within 6 months of starting a job. Guys like Forrest, turnbull, Taylor, Yang, Kwon, etc etc it's hard to get a tune out of them if they aren't upto it.

    Sometimes these things take time.

    Whether he wants to take the time or if he even gets it is another thing.
     
  7. murphy88

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    So 4 of the starting eleven didn’t play last season. Only 1 of the bench played any serious minutes last season also in Maeda. Who has been out injured for nearly 2 months.

    But apparently it’s only 3 players different from last season? Aye ok.
     
  8. Lewis Kerr

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    Exactly, the same people that were praising the board under Ange are now slaughtering them for our signings under Rodgers.

    Personally I always thought Ange ran the show in that regard, but if anything it just highlights the difference in ability between them even more. Ange knew what he wanted and most of the time got it whilst working under the constraints of the board. He was generally successful despite their obvious incompetence. Never once did he complain or moan about it.

    Rodgers comes in, says he's happy with how they operate, signs off on 9 largely * signings, reaffirms his contentedness, then proceeds to throw the players he signed off on under the bus after we start losing.

    Rodgers obviously cannot spot a player for * and relies on other people. That's fine. But I feel like we need a more "hands on" approach ala Ange. And if you're not happy don't feed the supporters * by telling us how much of a great job they're doing and then criticise them when results don't go our way. I hate the contradiction.
     
  9. Dylan1996 Gold Member Brigade Gold Member

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    Wit point you even trying to make??? :56::56:

    I don't need to have a list of potential takeover nominees in order to say the board need to go.

    * me man...
     
  10. Turd Ferguson Gold Member Gold Member

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    Rodgers carries as much blame for the window as anyone.
    He's the manager, he has the final say. Has admitted so himself.

    He complains about a bloated squad but sat and done nothing through an entire summer while we added nine players, none good enough, to that bloated squad. Complicit.
     
  11. Lewis Kerr

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    Honestly? Loved his first season with us but didn't enjoy the football afterwards. Didn't see Leicester that much but I thought he was doing an OK job there, backed up by the FA Cup win. I never thought getting 5th was a remarkable achievement though, especially when they bottled 4th two years in a row. Then they were obviously poor in Europe. Saw them more in his last season and it was a carbon copy of what we're seeing here.

    You can say he wasn't backed when he's spent millions upon millions of * at every club he's been at.
     
  12. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Honestly believe even ange would struggle with this lot.

    We've taken about 3 or 4 key players out the team and its shown big time. We saw back end of last season. Meaningless games or not, how far off it the reserved were, and for the most part Rodgers has had to deal with a squad that isn't at its fullest and off the back of a terrible window where key players haven't been adequately replaced.

    Multiple parties at fault. It's a shambles.
     
  13. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment.

    Our squad is awful, indeed it is. Yet, the wee fella with the fake pearly white teeth on the sideline said he and he alone has final say on the transfers.

    So, he's either a born liar, or he's just a * manager.

    Or both....
     
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  14. Mickmac Gold Member Gold Member

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    I suppose what I'm saying is that we could sack this board and end up with a worse one. If there's somebody out there willing to take over the club and we think they look better then fair enough but I don't think there's a big queue. Other clubs have gone bust chasing success.
    I'm not really a big supporter of the board they do hoard too much money and buy too many projects and not enough experienced first team ready players. And I actually think they're pretty clueless about the playing side of the club. They care more about the business side of it and they're probably pretty good at that but that's only half the job of running a football club.
    But I thinks it's a bit more complex than just sacking the board.
     
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  15. NakamuraTastic

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    Yup and the blue tarts are loving it. How far we've regressed from such a strong position is mental. Doing it on the cheap always works..yaaay!
     
  16. Can'tbehooped

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    The starting line up aye. The starting line up as in the team that the manager best feels will perform for the match ahead. He oversaw the signing of 9 players and he is not giving them the chance. He chose not to have any of our other wingers on the bench or other options in midfield. He chose not to sign another striker. He watched Mikey Johnstone play utter * football all the first half. He set the tone to be slow pass it out wide instead of going direct against that block.

    Yes the teams weak just now, we're missing Hatate, abada etc. We were playing hearts. The players available should have been more than enough.
     
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  17. Turd Ferguson Gold Member Gold Member

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    My money is on both
     
  18. thailandceltic From Immigration to Domination

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    He can't take all the blame because the squad of players he has is the worst I've seen in a long time, far worse even than Lennons covid disaster season.

    In saying that to continue playing that midfield and that style over and over when it's clearly not working screams he hasn't a clue how to change it.

    Every attack is the * same, as soon as we get to opposition box it's 20 passes from one side of the pitch to the other until we either loss it or smash it against a defender in attempting to cross it.. its so obvious and easy to defend, absolutely no speed in the team either.

    I think we are in serious trouble because we have a manager that doesn't know how to change it or have the players to change it.
     
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    You're right mate it's a massive risk. As a business, we're run really well, but as a football club we need more. It's inexcusable that between 2012-now we made no attempt to improve and only stay one level above the competition, when you think about where we could be the now it's * sickening.
     
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  20. Liam Scales

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    Go back and look at Ange’s first December mate. He would have been ecstatic to have the options we have right now. I’d take Yang and MJ over Adam Montgomery converted to a winger any day - but only if Ange was the manager, cos Ange got Montgomery to do us a turn.