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Kyogo Furuhashi

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Lebo, Jul 16, 2021.

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  1. Foley1888

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    See given how poor our wing options are for Killie on Sunday I would be tempted to start Kyogo wide right, with Oh through the middle.

    His two CL goals have come from him coming in from there linking up with O’Riley by feeding a ball into him and Kyogo darting in. Johnston can overlap him and when we use Palma down the left Kyogo can get in the box to give us two strikers in there.
     
  2. NakamuraTastic

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  3. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Bigger picture needs to be looked at.

    If he was playing under Ange without Jota or Abada either side consistently he'd be going through a similar patch of form.

    The service to him has been shocking of late. Hoping Palma can strike up a partnership with him.

    I also don't think he's covering himself in glory regardless. He's doing very simple things poorly at the moment.

    But as per its all Rodgers fault I suppose.
     
  4. HTG "I have an uncle who does Yoga"

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    Kyogo himself needs to be doing a lot more, he was terrible when he came on last night and was poor against Lazio, Motherwell and St Johnstone.

    We all know what a fantastic player he can be, but he's seemingly getting no blame for his form this season. No doubt Rodgers system has impacted him a bit, but Kyogo isn't faultless.
     
  5. Guchi Gucci Gold Member Gold Member

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    Has been poor. Not particularly worried tbh.
     
  6. Ryanm1984

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    Loss of jota and abada definitely has had an impact but the one argument I'd put up is that OH doesn't seem to struggle to get involved as much when he's playing.

    Different players obviously but at the moment Oh seems to be better fit in the current system
     
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  7. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Different players is probably bang on. I do think how we are playing atm suits a more physical striker..but I'd disagree with the notion that Kyogo has been completely ruined by Rodgers (not saying youre saying that).

    He's shown good form under him including his first two UCL.goals something he didnt manage last year under Ange, seems to have gone off it atm mind.
     
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  8. Taz Blind Justice Gold Member News Writer

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    Think its more to do with the way Rodgers is wanting him to play. That rather than Rodgers adapting and playing Kyogo to his natural strengths, Rodgers is having Kyogo adapt/conform to his structure and tactics.

    Yes, the loss of Jota is a miss obviously, but Palma is creating from the left, that if Kyogo were playing to his strengths and those were being harnessed properly, then the miss of Jota wouldn't be so great in so far as Kyogo's form has fallen off this season.

    TBH wouldn't be totally shocked, given whats happened with Spurs over the last 6-7 weeks, if Ange didn't make a move for Kyogo - if he hasn't already put out feelers in that direction, givern how proactive he was in transfer dealings when he was here.
     
  9. Ryanm1984

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    No I agree mate, not having this nonsense that he's being ruined by Rodgers. He's maybe just taking longer to adjust to the style than others plus the loss of 3 players who probably assisted majority of his goals over last 2 years isnt going to help either
     
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    Right now, Oh offers way more, so Oh deserves to start ahead of him.
    He just seemed to run around aimlessly quite a bit the last 5 or 6 games. In fairness, he was making some decent runs in behind and was getting frustrated when nobody took a chance of a ball over the top.
     
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    The annoying thing is as well, Hibs is the first game in a while when we’ve skipped a man and played the early ball in behind for a striker running onto it.

    Done it a good few times for Oh, whereas Kyogo’s been stymied a bit by making a run, resetting, making a run, resetting, making a move again before the balls eventually came.
     
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  12. James Gold Member Gold Member

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    One of the biggest criticisms you can throw at Rodgers is the fact he has been dropped and nobody has batted an eye lid as it has been deserved. I'm reluctant to say Rodgers 'style' has killed him as I don't really see a style
     
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    Kyogo is a quality player but his physical limitations means he needs quality service. He’s not getting it at the moment so his form is suffering.
     
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    The bottom line is that Kyogo is the best finisher and has the best movement in the league. He is head and shoulders above anything else that we have.

    Its criminal that we would play him anywhere but as the main striker.
     
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    I think he's been hampered with Maeda missing or Abada.

    He always done well when guys made runs in behind and he went with then. Since Maeda got injured he's not had a sniff of the ball, Palma and then Yang or Johnston sit and wait on passes then run with it and pass and move etc Kyogo is just hovering about waiting then theres been no overlapping from the full-backs either.

    So theres never the chance of being in behind the opposition or any quick attacks, everythings slowed down passing down the wings and across midfield.
     
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    If he was smart he'd be engineering a move elsewhere where his qualities are better suited.
     
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  17. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    Brendan Rodgers has revealed Kyogo Furuhashi will lead Celtic’s attack against Feyenoord – and insisted he’s not to blame for the striker’s recent goal drought.

    Rodgers left the Japanese talisman on the bench for Sunday’s shock defeat at Kilmarnock after dropping him out of the team for last week’s home win over Hibs. But the Parkhead boss confirmed on Tuesday night Kyogo will be pitched back in from the start for his side’s final Champions League game of a catastrophic campaign against the Dutch big guns in Glasgow’s east end.

    And he rubbished any suggestion that his own tactical strategy has been directly to blame for a miserable run which has seen Kyogo net only once in Celtic’s last 10 games. Asked if Kyogo will replace Oh Hyeon-gyu in his attack Rodgers replied: “He will play. We have to be fair to Kyogo and some of the other boys as well. They can’t play in every single game. You lose that speed and intensity.


    Rodgers has been blamed for this drop off for deploying Kyogo in a deeper role than the one which was earmarked for him by former boss Ange Postecoglou. But the manager hit back by insisting Kyogo has gone against his own instructions.

    He said: “We went through his video stuff the other week. We looked primarily at the fact I don’t need him dropping in so much. When you’re playing in a lot of games where teams are sat deep, you don’t get a kick of the ball really unless it comes into the box.

    “So what do you do? You start wandering. His strength is his penetration. That’s his strength, running in behind and timing his runs. You have to make 10 runs maybe to only get in once but that’s your job as a striker.

    “So there’s been nothing changed in that. There’s been absolutely nothing different asked of him because his strength is playing off the last line, timing his movements and being instinctive in the box.

    “He’s not a dribbler, he’s not someone who does drop in. He can do it but it’s not his strength. And that’s always the challenge for a striker who wants to affect games. But he’s very receptive. He’s not a baby, remember, he’s 28 years of age.”
     
  18. PaddyJamieson

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    This is a bit strange and patronising. Did Rodgers not specifically note how he had asked Kyogo to drop deep early in the season? It's something we all picked up on. This strikes me as poor communication in terms of what he's asking for.

    Kyogo played on the last line for 90 under Ange with no issue. It's clearly a problem of Rodgers but he's putting the blame on Kyogo here.
     
  19. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Was thinking that myself earlier tbh, he isn’t blameless himself Kyogo.

    Caveated with the fact we’re not getting enough balls across the 5 yard box early enough for him and that 100% is on the manager. The majority of his goals are nipping in front of centre halves because his movement is exceptional as is his anticipation.
     
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  20. Luis1967 Gold Member Gold Member

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    He must be thinking * is going on when he’s sitting on the bench after the last 2 years he’s had and the goals earlier this season and getting his first couple of CL goals. If he is off form a bit only way he’s getting it back is if he’s playing. He’ll score tomorrow I think and hopefully that’ll be it all sorted and we he can start leading the line again.

    We’d have won on Sunday no bother if he was playing.