David Turnbull

I said, if Turnbull had bags of stamina. He doesn't. But his goalscoring ability is immense.

 

Even if he did have stamina, it wouldn't get him near O'Riley.

O'Riley has far, far more to his game than Turnbull.

 

He's more frustrating than Rogic.

Rogic at least was deceptively agile and strong on the ball, just a * engine.

Turnbull gets goals but I feel his presence on the pitch is to the detriment of the players around him.

I just don't know what to do with him

 

There is zero chance that article is based on any reality. Your spot on a fee of about 1m or so would be about as much as we could hope for in January given his contract almost been done.

 

So the Milan rumours are true

 

Complete drivel. He has been given multiple awards which you dont win from having a good shot alone.

He is one of the better technical footballers we have, whether you like it or not.

I think he hasnt been a regular because both he and O Riley probably cant play in the same midfield because they are both not blessed with pace and are too similar in types of player. A midfield of DT, MOR and CM is for me heavily imbalanced.

O’Rileys assessment of him in the post match interview earlier in the season speaks volumes about how he regards him as a player.

 

Was he ever offered a contract extension or did he just turn it down?

 

So what else does he excel at? His passing is hardly defence splitting on any consistent basis. He's not defensively sound. He's not a dribbler. He pretty much refuses to use his weak foot. His biggest strength, and only real strength, is his ball striking.

He won multiple awards as a youngster breaking through at Motherwell, scoring loads of goals (as I said) and won awards for us during our worst season this century. During a season where even Soro looked a player because the other players in the team were so dross.

O'Riley and Turnbull are nothing alike, besides the fact neither are the quickest. O'Riley's energy, passing, defensive work, footwork and just general touch of class are all levels above Turnbull.

He's not a regular because he simply can't do enough of what we need. Again, do you honestly think if his shooting was even 25% weaker, he'd be anywhere near a Celtic starting XI? Not a chance.

He'll always be good for a goal against average/poor teams who sit deep and give him space to shoot from distance. We've seen it time and time again. But play against higher level opposition and he's a man down.

 

His passing, touch and shooting are all very good. Its no coincidence that other teams have shown interest in him throughout his career. It he leaves us, he will have no shortage of suitors.

His goals have literally got us out of sticky wickets in recent weeks, even when coming from the bench.

Im not even arguing that he is better than O’riley, completely wasting your time so dont even know why you trying to go there. But as types of player, both are attack minded midfielders, so yes they are similar player types. The whole 25% weaker argument is nonsense as well.. you could argue that for a chosen stat from any player. Just drivel again.

Someone who is capable of moments of magic are needed to open up games against the teams who sit in tight, and having lost Jota and Mooy, he is one of the few we have who is capable of that.

 

It’s a pointless discussion if you’re comparing O’Riley and Turnbull. Saying both are similar because they’re both “attack minded” is just laughable. In that case Hatate and Rogic were similar.

We’ll have to agree to disagree. Personally think it’s fairly obvious that he’s not good enough in most areas of his game. An opinion shared by the vast majority of the support and, most importantly, our two most recent managers. Otherwise he’d be higher up in the pecking order.

And aye, he may well have no shortage of suitors. But Milan certainly won’t be one of them. I’d be staggered if any team playing in a level above the English Championship were after him.

 

I don't think it's outlandish to say that if he had an good engine and could press well that he would be competing for a starting place with O'Riley and Hatate. Not saying he'd have O'Riley on the bench, but he'd be an excellent player with those attributes added.

 

Not sure. But I think I recall Rodgers saying recently he would like to keep him.

 

I never directly compared them? I said they both cant play in the same team and that they are similar types of player. Both have different strengths but both are not physically strong and dont offer enough defensively.

Managers have also played players ahead of him and then repeatedly turned to him when we have needed a goal threat from midfield that others have not been able to offer.

 

Turnbull to AC Milan.

Come on to *

 

I don't understand the hate he gets, he was an absolute standout at Motherwell, recovered from a surgery that could have been a career ender really well, he was our player of the season in the Covid season by quite a margin, has consistently contributed goals and assists including match winners.

He's not the fastest, or gives a huge defensive contribution but I can rattle off plenty that get high praise that are just like that. As it stands the fit isn't the easiest as he is to similar to O'Reilly and McGregor in play and doesn't give the complimentary skills that Hatate does, swap him for one of O'Reilly or McGregor and then have a complimentary player in and it would be a different story

 

How is it he has such poor physicality. He’s 6 foot 1. Get him in the gym, it’s not as though any muscle gain will slow him down.

 

Him being weaks a new one to be directed his way, he’s no a tank aye but he’s no Nir Bitton either fs. Can’t remember him consistently getting muscled off the ball. His biggest issue is he’s a stiff immobile guy, he can’t turn quick or beat defenders for pace. We should stop trying to make him do that, and use his movement, timing of runs, finishing ability and creativity instead of pretending he’s Hatate.

 

I know why, because of watching us but tickles me that O’Rileys goalscoring touch this year has elevated to godlike praise, and Turnbull in far less minutes played, playing poorly has the same amount.


His goals to minutes since returning from injury Ange’s first season must be insane. Or goal contributions rather than just goals, I remember towards end of the season last year it was under 90 mins per goal or assist as well. This year its 78 or something like that. He’s a * machine, I hope we get him tied to a new deal. Can’t see it though, there will be a load of interest in him, and I’d hate to think of this season so far without him. He’s something different, and reliable, to win games.

 

Not being funny but if he's not a Hatate who is he?...Calmac no chance n no left peg so no MO?...like Bull where does he fit?