Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

He's either been played by the board or he's complicit in the shitshow that was our summer window. Either way it reflects badly on him.

 

Yep..

We never really kick on and build from a position of strength..

I get success and our place in the footballing pyramid dictates how we can build but I'm no having that we couldn't improve on our overall squad last season..

It's inexcusable with the managers return, champions league qualification back to back and the Jota money that we are much weaker..

It felt like a top signing on the wing. A left back and keeper and we could've given this a go. We need more like a ball carrier who can protect the defence and dominate a midfield but we just haven't done any of it..

* man..

 

Quite literally the 4 positions, along with a striker to suit Rodgers style and that would have set us up superbly.

Livakovic at £8m was it?
A left back of the same ilk as AJ on the right? (Or lustig, josip, the list is endless for fair priced fullbacks. Albeit left side is fewer) £3m?
A winger (Palma done earlier could have satisfied), maybe another 3-5m
A striker at £3m like GG?
A defensive mid, ball carrier, to cover the defence so we don't need to rhin CalMac - another 4m would be fine.

What's that, a total of £23mill?
That's the Jota money right there. Then invest another £10m on guys like Yang, Holm, a loan deal for Bernardo in the hope one becomes the next £25m that can then fund the next big push


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This

Think the season has been turgid so far. He's working with *, to be fair to him. But even then, our performances have largely been way underpar.

 

It's the biggest issue.

Without looking at all of them forensically, I'd hazard a guess that of our last 50 signings, you're lucky if more than 15 have been a success. And by success I mean regular starters in their time and consistently playing well.

Someone like Johnston I would now say is barely a success. Already looks like we need better.

 

Honestly hope we start to see dark Brendan. The club needs a bit more of the competitive edge Ange brought without the bitterness Lennon ended up with. He was a little spicy tonight just straight saying we need quality to compete but he didn't exactly sound confident it will be addressed imminently if at all.

The problem I have with it all is that this is season 20 of the Peter Lawell show and Rodgers will get paid no matter, he will probably see his as reputation somewhat safe domestically and this time he didn't bring his guys so he's has a weaker influence at the club this time.

I honestly don't see anything changing whilst this situation continues and even if we do get a decent player in January, chances are he'll be gone in under 3 years and we will be left with the ones that didn't work out and the new projects.

But overall Rodgers is right, we need quality to compete at European level and we don't have enough of it. Had we kept the squad together, kept doak, got Mcginn blah blah blah, who knows.

If Rodgers does trim the squad and get a better balance of quality that's at least something so I hope he can stand his ground on signings and deliver on that. Especially proactively replacing key high earners like James McCarthy.

 

What? Rodgers? Lie about something? Well, that's my entire worldview in tatters.

 

Agree with this.

 

The annoying thing is we could all see it coming. We always seem to invest when we're out of the champions league..why not (and I know this is a crazy comment) invest before the Champions League and win a few more rounds = more money back on the investment...It's mad that we're actually weaker now. So bored of never building on success... same old same old.

 

Aye, that's funny right enough

 

I think his interview was terrible man management TBH. Obviously, it's 100% right what he said; but there's a time to say it. The players just lost a big game and crashed out of Europe and will be feeling very low, what a lot of them are going to hear him saying there is, "You aren't good enough for the CL."

Several of them clearly aren't good enough; but I don't think saying so publically in a media event is good man management and especially not right now. He could learn a thing or two from Ange there.

 

Think he's played the boards game and strategy with not one complaint so far. Slight shot across the bow to them. We've tried it, and it's not working. He'll know the disgruntle noises from the fans in regards to europe and the opinions of fans on the GB situation versus the boards.

He'll improve players as, but is now asking the board for a hand. As you said, maybe not the right time in regards to his comments.

 

I don’t think BR really cares that much…. he knows the score with the plc and still gets his dosh whatever results come about.

He was simply the wrong appointment post Ange… he is stubborn and clearly wants 11 men to conform to HIS tactics rather than adjust his style to suit what was a settled squad. The Summer business was * but I blame Rodgers and his inflexibility more..

Not far off halfway point in the season now… it hasn’t worked from the off and still isn’t working … and yet still he stubbornly persists in his selections, tactics, formations and substitutions…

It’s only blind luck and individual moments that has got us to here in the league without losing a game… but it won’t last.. and the dropped points at home are a worrying indicator of where we are at.

 

Don’t speak such madness.

 

In fairness what do you expect him to say? If he came out and tried to claim we have a squad more than good enough to compete at this level he would be ridiculed for it.

I just feel the folk who can’t stand him and never wanted him will never be satisfied until he’s gone again so they can say I told you so (not aimed at you by the way).

I’m not some Rodgers loving happy clapper who can see no wrong, he quite clearly has some things he could improve upon, his recruitment being the glaringly obvious one, but I do think tactically we were better this season in the CL but badly hampered by a playing squad which was just nowhere near good enough to do anything at this level. That’s not solely down to him imo, he’s been hampered by a penny pinching board who lack any sort of ambition other than finishing ahead of a * poor hun team year upon year.

He probably could learn a thing or two from Ange but that goes both ways, let’s not forget in Ange’s first season here we finished 3rd in the EL groups and got absolutely horsed off a very average side in the CL. I wouldn’t say the circumstances were too dissimilar either in terms of very much being in a transition period and having a squad which wasn’t where it should have been.

His first 6 months here all in have been pretty average being honest with a lot of games we’re just doing enough to get by, but I wouldn’t fully judge him until the end of the summer window next season. At the moment he’s working with one hand tied behind his back.

 

Agree with this. With the exception of maybe 2 games it's not obvious whether Rodgers, or John Kennedy is calling the shots. He's had literally zero impact.

He's pretty much done nothing really wrong, but unfortunately also not done much right. We should still win the league comfortably, but that's because the Huns are mince, and even repeated cheating doesn't solve that

Biggest issue if Rodgers is dead weight is that it delays us moving forward, yet again.

 

Completely agree. He was basically a non entity in terms of influence in the last window.

The club had their targets, Brendan stood by.

I've alot of respect for him, but no want to see him in our dugout.
One of the reasons why I didnt want him back was because of his poor recruitment record. Other posters countered with the signings he wanted but never got , but the signings that were clearly his were of a very low success rate. I still have nightmares about Jack * Henry in a Celtic shirt.

The last window has nothing to do with him.

But as Sutton said last week, he's made a board (get it) for his own back with his comments at the AGM.

He's said he wants only quality. That he's the final word on transfers, and even last night, claiming the quality is necessary and indeed imminent.

If he * this window, or allows the board to * it, he's done.

Imo, and I know many will disagree, he has this window to fix the * state that our squad are in, and salvage this title. He's already * the league cup and Europe.

This is the biggest transfer window of his life as far as I'm concerned.