Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Im not sticking all of the blame on him, but his best European campaign is a semi final appearance in a third tier competition playing against, for the most part, teams who had spent much less on their squads than he had with his Leicester one.

His only win as Liverpool manager in the CL came at home against Ludogorets and I’m pretty sure it was a narrow score line.

Has he ever shown he can get the better of a team with a bigger budget in European football? Even once?

Let’s face it, it’ll be the same * results and same * excuses this time next year as well. Finding it near on impossible to envisage us ever having a good campaign in Europe under him.

I think if we gave him 50 million pounds next summer we’d still struggle.

 

I’m not talking about the second-half, though; I’m talking about our general approach and how we set up to take on big European teams, moreover away from home. It’s utterly ludicrous given the squad we have. (Ange’s Euro tactics were the same or worse tbf).

I’m not convinced strongly of Rodgers’ ability one way or other, tbh, and I’ve always felt that’s there’s a strong whiff of ‘spoof’ from him. He better not * up the league, that’s all I’ll say.

 

Don’t blame him at all for last night

 

He couldn't have predicted a red card, but giving McGregor more rest in previous games was doable.

 

But are you surprised to see that sort of performance/outcome from a Rodgers side? He cant bear all the blame, but a fair amount lays with him.

Iv seen him in 4 campaigns in europe now mate. And he didnt make the CL with, in my opinion, his strongest set of players as a Celtic manager.

 

He's signed on for three years, he must surely have been promised something that would equate to the club improving in Europe.

But on the face of it, it's the same old same old with this board - tell you one thing to your face, backtrack on it later.

I firmly believe Ange saw through lawwell and that big sit down they had earlier this year with Desmond and co. Mere weeks later he was getting his agent to work his ticket out and the spurs job was being ramped up for him. Spurs did not have Ange remotely at the top of their list when they was first looking for managers. Enrique etc was their list, Ange would have been suggested to them through agents and in time it worked in his favour - good for him.

But for me, clear as * day, the "return" of lawwell saw the exit of Ange, he didn't buy his bullshit about the summer - those rumours we heard about barrowfield, £30m transfer kitty etc - and he exited stage right.

Rodgers returned and they presented him with the last two years (minus the lawwell return) as a sign that things had changed.
Only thing was, they were quickly changing back again under PL.

Transfer kitty and backing for Europe? Gone.
Barrowfield development, never to be seen.
Analysis rooms and the likes, where?

It's the same * every * time. But still some fans will defend the board and tell us we are over thinking things and that it's not this bad.
It * is.

Peter lawwell is a cancer on our club.


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Great post mate

 

I do share your frustration, with most of your post.. but the Barrowfield Investment is under way, was announced in September..

 

1 out of 3, that's better than their usual efforts

Let's just hope it goes ahead as planned and isn't like the hotel saga

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Shut Milan out for 180 minutes with a defence that cost about £1m.
Yes it was a long time ago now and it feels it as well.

 

2 major screw ups from BR.
Surely at 1-0 down, and down to 10 men, against a top drawer CL side, he needs to shore it up. Take Kyogo off-he was at nothing for the hour on the park-and bring on a midfielder, then just try to hang in there and nick a goal.
And what was he thinking of at HT running with 2 strikers. Anyone could tell that with 2 strikers, they were going to carve us open with their passing. Did he think we were going to get enough service into both to get goals??

 

I strongly disagree with most of the criticisms of Rodgers I've been reading, but this one is valid. I've been thinking that for weeks.

 

I'm not saying you're definitely wrong (you might be right for all I know); but what makes you think it's Lawwell? When I look at this summer, I see perfect continuity. I just think Ange papered over a lot of the deficiencies with signings he knew personally. If you take away Kyogo, Maeda, Hatate and Mooy, it just looks like continuity. There's only really O'Reilly that has been a huge success.

Edit: and CCV and Jota, although they were initially loans and even CCV, for all his undoubted quality, is starting to look a bit injury prone.

 

There wasn't very much interest in him in England after his run with Leicester. No one was lining up to hire him so Celtic was his only chance of playing in Europe.

 

The delusion needs to stop imo.

The bottom line is, a great majority on this board thought BR was only coming back to have a good crack at the CL, with a budget to allow him to do so.
Isn't that the stated ambition? We need to push on and grow as a club? We need to make a least a dent in Europe again? The league takes care of itself?

Neither has happened, or is likely to happen. Not with Rodgers.

BR is simply a poor manager in Europe. That may upset some on here but facts are facts.

That was his 16th CL fixture with us. SIXTEEN.

11 defeats, shipping 46 goals. A goal every 35 minutes. The stats from that Atletico game are enough to make a grown man cry.

Yes, the squad isn't CL ready. Yes, he's been "underfunded" in terms of quality.
But that certainly doesn't absolve him responsibility for that horrendous record.

Nor his European record outside of ourselves.

He's now statistically the WORST manager with more than 20 league games in Champions League History.

And no, it's not a knee * reaction to the Atletico mauling. For me it's my worst * fears about him coming true.

As I said earlier, if he * this next transfer window up, he's done.

 

Taylor bombing up and down as LWB? Won't work. We all know his issues, and he needs rest.

 

Who provides the width on the left in this scenario, if Taylor acts cautiously?