Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat)

I don’t think it’s well written at all to be honest. The lack of condemnation for Hamas is damning for a start. They had the perfect opportunity to set the record straight there and they didn’t.

“We don’t condone what Hamas has done but we stand behind the Palestinian people”. That’s all that was needed. But no, let’s go on the defensive instead. I do think the club are hypocritical sometimes, yeah. That doesn’t give you the right to do whatever you want and act as if you’re speaking for the entire support.

I applaud the charity elements, I applaud standing behind Palestine all these years as the people face persecution and oppression at the hands of the Israeli state.

But in spite of all that I’m really disappointed at their total lack of awareness around the weekend’s events. It came across as a childish and antagonistic celebration of murder. It’s clear reading social media and even threads on here that it hasn’t gone down very well with much of the support.

 

Celtic had to come out with something condemning the display and the GB would have been aware of that. Another chance to drive a wedge between the support and the club I suppose.

 

Aye, I tend agree with what the statement said but maybe what it didn't say is more to the point.

 

There's no getting away from the club's hypocrisy though. They cannot in good faith put out statements saying politics are nor welcome at Celtic Park.

Not a fan division between club and supporters and think both sides need to work harder to avoid it at times, but the GB or anyone else has a right to defend their right to show support for political movements as they see fit. The club picking and choosing what's allowed and what isn't is a disgrace imo.

 

Explain Bella ciao relevance then. Looks like you’re backing the board here because of the ‘rebs’ they playe that are inextricably linked to Celtic. What’s the reason for Bella ciao being belted over the tannoy.

 

Aye but there's surely a limit mate. That display was out of order, but the GB knew that. Celtic were always going to speak out against it.

 

Is it up to the GB to apologise on behalf of Hamas? If the banner wasn’t for them and was for Palestine in general, why would they apologise for it?

 

I’d say the vast majority of us agree with the statement JC BUT anyone with any brains should realise that it absolutely had to condemn hamas, instead it’s like they have doubled down on the stupidity/ lack of self awareness from the weekends banner.
Crosas was able to do it with a single tweet.

 

I think both the club and the Green Brigade have come out with extremely poor statements. The club had to defend themselves, they were being attacked. I think the club should have said that we applaud the right for protest and freedom of speech, but the political views of fans do not always match those of our club. The Green Brigade have gone a bit to over defensive and attacking the club, and they really had the chance to say that the banner was mis-interpreted, that it was a statement of support for Palestine, not Hamas and said yeah the banner was badly timed. The Green Brigade often come across like they feel they speak for all Celtic fans.

 

Honestly am torn on the original banner. Can see both sides of the argument I.e. it wasn't, on the face of it, a statement of support for Hamas. But also the timing of it was such that it can definitely be construed as such.

I suppose the lack of clarification in the NC statement suggests they've no problem being seen as supporting what Hamas done.

It's a bit of a * and really the club are in a lose-lose situation. That said, I still support what the NC statement is saying. The club is born of famine and oppression and the current incumbents are not being true to the clubs roots. Unless of course it's a nice popular, sociably acceptable political cause they want to allow.

 

Aye, it's obvious they don't want to condemn Hamas.. I don't think it's a lack of self-awareness, they know exactly what they're doing.

 

They don’t need to apologise on behalf of Hamas, but they do need to condemn them if they’re also going to fly a banner stating “Victory to the resistance” on the day that hundreds are killed. By Hamas.

I think it’s quite clear at this point that they don’t want to.

 

Republican's will no doubt empathise more with causes they feel relates to them. People in general will lean towards causes they can relate to, just human nature I think. Supporting Palestine is a noble cause and I have no problem with it. We do seem a bit married to it.
You can't support every cause in the world either. I do think it's a shame that Uighur's didn't get much (or any) media time as it was horrific but I can't fault our fans for that.

I think the club and the Green Brigade need to learn to work together to promote different causes national and international, sadly they both seem to despise each other so I don't see it happening.

 

I suspect you are right JC. Question is what happens between now and the 25th because that could see the board have to make a hard choice for that game.

 

It's not ideal, difficult situation for the board to manage..

However, I think by that time the situation in Gaza will have gotten so bad for the people of Palestine that many will happily stand in support of them.. For the little that will actually mean by then.

 

Thought his tweet was spot on.

 

For me mate it's obvious they don't want to condemn what's happened and they've left enough ambiguity on whether they actually support it.. allowing conclusions to be drawn.

If that's what they believe, it's their perogative but I would say ththe definitely don't speak for the majority on this one.

 

Sorry, think you maybe misunderstood me. I was saying that by not setting the record straight, it suggests the banner was in support of the actions of Hamas which is wrong imo.

 

Not clarifying what the banner meant by "Resistance" makes the rest of the statement completely redundant.