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Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat)

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Paul67, Dec 17, 2010.

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  1. Pablo87 Gold Member Gold Member

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    They have make the turn styles more narrow to stop people jumping in. Now anyone with a bit of weight can’t get through and have to get In the fire exit.
     
  2. ardis1967

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    the atmosphere was so flat last night. 10 mins to go and you can hear the players all shouting at each other. Our 'european atmosphere' is an absolute myth these days.
     
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  3. Bob Loblaw Gold Member Gold Member

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    Can we talk about how bad YNWA was last night?

    Club completely killed the pregame atmosphere with that one. It wasn’t even a nice rendition, no offence to the girl.
     
  4. leeso-ardoyne

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    Mate of mine struggled to get through turnstile.we had to push and pull him through. I'd say anyone abit heavier could well get stuck in them.

    Never knew you could go in fire exit with your ticket thou. Do you still need to scan it or just show the ticket at the gate.
     
  5. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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  6. Darksel

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    I believe Palestine should be free if that's what they wish, but to choose today to publicly support them when they're releasing videos of parading innocent dead women through the streets naked is * up.

    Why would you make a banner like that man.
     
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  7. Bob Loblaw Gold Member Gold Member

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    I have mixed feelings about this. I am fundamentally pro-Palestine in the overall debate. Israel has stood on the necks of Palestinians for decades. They’ve illegally seized their land, they’ve raided their mosques, they’ve brutally murdered civilians opposed to their aggressive, expansionist settler policy. The question of whether I support a free Palestine is an easy one, absolutely.

    However, today’s events are complicated. I’m not sure the murder of civilians can ever be justified, regardless of what the cause is. That’s wrong and it’s not the way to fight a war. It’s difficult to defend it, even if I sympathise with the Palestinian cause. It’s a horrible, complex situation and there will be no winners in an all out war in the Middle East.

    I really think they could have been a bit more sensible and less insensitive with this display, and it reeks of complete immaturity. Something that’s been an evident trait of both them and the Bhoys in recent times.
     
  8. Ciaran_67

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    Completely agree with all of that.

    Particularly given the timing, this reeks of a ‘get it up ye’ type banner rather than an articulated, timely, political point (which to be fair, the GB have been decent enough at in the past)

    It completely goes against the type of messaging coming out from Pro-Palestine voices like Corbyn etc. There’s a consensus out there to stop the inhumane harming of civilians on all sides.
     
  9. lazyregula

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    What your saying is correct. Morally, Hamas don't have the Palestinian people's best interests at heart. Supporting Palestine and Hamas for me are two different things.
     
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    I think these views align with how I feel.

    They really let themselves down today.
     
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  11. leeso-ardoyne

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    While I don't agree with hamas has done, I can understand it. There was a time in my own life I'd have went and killed protestants in the north after seeing what they inflicted on us growing up. Infact , we all did. Sometimes some people just have no choice and their minds have been shaped to turn them into killers. What Israel has inflicted on Palestine is * horrific and even the ordinary jews who live in Israel are guilty of some sort of oppression on the innocent palestinians. We did some research on that conflict when I was younger and i was actually supposed to go there with a cross community group in Belfast through the youth club but ended up not going. Alot of my mates went and said what they seen they totally support palastine 100%. Barbaric them Israelis.

    With all that said though, killing innocent people is just wrong but put yourself in the shoes of a someone in palastine and you too will have a different outlook on it. It's easy for us to point the finger when it's not our own family, friends and community is getting slautered on a daily basis. Like a freight train through our land and taken from us at will.
     
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  12. Darksel

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    I think everyone on this board supports Palestine 100%, they should get their freedom.

    The problem is, the confusion between supporting Palestine and supporting Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization, clearly.

    Do you understand/support what ISIS does?
     
  13. leeso-ardoyne

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    The IRA where classed as a terrorist organization and I supported them? Like many on here did!

    Asking me do I support isis is just * stupid.

    What I do agree with is for men and women to rise against any injustices against them in any ways they see fit. I am not in the shoes of a palastining in today's society but I can totally understand how they feel. You see you don't come from where I do and they do and have seen and had experiences as us. Ireland have had similar to what goes on in palastine.

    While I don't agree with what hamas has done as a 43 yr old father now and who went through a peace process on this island. There was a time I would have agreed with this attack thou. I make no apologies for this either. It reminds me of the shankill bombing at the time. As teenager's, we had a feeling of joy when we got the news it happened. And then to find out to lose 2 republicans in the same explosion was a sad feeling. Especially as when you knew them and their families. Again I make no apologies for this because it's how our minds where shapped at what was happening all around us. Now as an *, I now know it was wrong but at the time it's how I felt and many people who lived amungst us felt the same.

    Israel needs to stop now what they are doing and these sort of attacks won't happen. It's a reaction from the palastine people and the sooner Israel sorts out a peace deal and to hand back the stolen land then this will continue!

    Again though, I don't agree with it but I totally understand it! The palastinians feel like they have no other choice. War is horrific!
     
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    The IRA is classed as a terrorist organization only if you believe they killed innocents. It's true I have not experienced what it sounds like you have, but surely violence on this scale isn't the answer, what exactly has been solved with this attack?

    Israel has turned off the power to Gaza and a whole lot more Palestinian people will die, far more than any Israeli.
     
  15. KRS-1888 Scott La Rock

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    Nah,by definition they absolutely are a ‘terrorist’ organisation…and they did kill innocents,quite a lot actually.
     
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    Ask the Israels what does there violence achieve aswell. As I said above, it's ok for us to point blame sitting in the comforts of our home. You are not there so IMO it's wrong of you to point blame. You need to understand why!

    What would you do if someone of an organization came in to your home and murdered your family tonight. You had the chance to murder the person or supporters of this person yourself. Would you do it if you knew you could get away with it. Well, multiple that 100 fold and this is what's happening in the minds of the palastinians.

    Israel needs to stop and there will be no reaction. There needs to be a peace deal and both sides can start living a normal life. No one is born wanting to do there horrific things but push a man(or a people) and you will get a reaction!
     
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  17. Darksel

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    The difference is the semantics, Israel clearly has no care about wiping Palestine off the face of the earth considering the supreme court ruled it illegal for them to disable power/water to Gaza, and they've already disabled power.
     
  18. Darksel

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    I'm not pointing blame by the way, I fully stand behind the Palestinian people. I just don't think the actions taken today by Hamas is for the good of those Palestinian people.
     
  19. leeso-ardoyne

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    Not by my definition and many on here. Innocents due in wars. That's a given. Didn't create the condition for war and you won't get a reaction! It's that simple!
     
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    I don't think their actions where just, but I totally understand them. But who am I to say sitting here. I know if I was sitting in palastine, I would think like them because I know I have done! They are only doing what they think is right by their people.

    We all want to see this conflict ended and peace in the middle east but as long as Israel continue what they have long done. These type of attacks will continue!
     
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