Russell Brand

Also let's be honest he is mainstream media. He has millions of subscribers, gets more viewers than most TV shows and like any news outlet he spreads his views as truth. Just because he isn't on the council Tele doesn't mean he isn't main stream.

 

Possibly. Like I said though I'll wait for a court to decide. Not that they are infallible but where do we draw the line here?

 

I'm going to start doing what I tell my daughter every week. Surround yourself with things and people that make you happy.

I need to stay away from this * it's no good for mental health.

Just claim and counter claim, shade thrown everywhere. He's guilty, it's the establishment.

* it all. I'll stick wae my daughter, Celtic, music and Star Wars. Much happier that way.

 

Paid for by the taxpayer basically. Horrible bunch of cretins the Royals. Every single one of them.

 

It was indeed SD and I've posted it a few times now - once more -



Unlike the usual informative videos that get posted on here, by the usual suspects, this video is absolutely worth watching. This guy could have been easily the most wealthy individual on the planet today had he monetised his invention but he chose to give it away. We all need to listen to him now and act before it gets worse as it most certainly will do.


As for brand.. I've not hidden my views on this dot joining * for long enough now, so I wont repeat them here.
What I will say though is the allegations aren't a surprise are they.

 

This is what’s wrong now with the world, you can have an opinion but it doesn’t make it fact. It’s just your opinion, until he is tried and the decision found out, people can have how many opinions they want, but none of that is factual until this is sorted in a court of law. Once trump said we have alternative facts, every conspiracy theorist just jumped on the bandwagon tbh and we are where we are with the ramifications of that sadly.

 

I totally understand your view point. But even if he hasn't raped someone, there seems lots of evidence and people saying he is a horrible person. You can judge someone and form opinions of whether someone is a criminal. Plenty of things are legal but highly immoral.

 

What do you mean that’s what’s wrong with the world now?

Forming your own opinions isnt a new concept. I haven’t once said he’s guilty of the accusations. My opinion doesn’t send him to jail.

It’s a weird thing people do now, making celebrities instantly untouchable until they’ve gone to court and been tried. Like you can’t even discuss it. But as we see now most of these people don’t even make it to court, because they are in a place of privilege.

I’m very much an innocent till proven guilty believer. But this isn’t some regular lad being accused or a footballer being accused out of nowhere like we see all the time. It’s not a Johnny Depp or Benjamin Mendy situation where it’s out of nowhere and we know nothing. This is more of a Mason Greenwood situation where there’s enough facts there for you to at least make an opinion on them as a human before you even consider the more serious accusations.

I also don’t doubt that there will be false accusations thrown in amongst this. I’m very much against the idea of just believing women for the sake of it, I think that’s a very dangerous road to go down too. But case by case, looking at everything we know so far, Brand is undoubtedly a rat.

 

Think you got the the wrong end of the stick , read my reply again I’m actually totally agreeing with you. People have always formed their own opinions yes, but sadly now we have the internet which can trial someone within 24 hours.

 

I’d be in full agreement with you about trials by media, if it weren’t for the fact that you yourself will routinely jump to conclusions on subjects based on no evidence whatsoever, or the sole word of a dodgy ‘alternative media’ source.

You’re a walking contradiction.

 

Never liked the guy at all. Bit of a sleazebag and up his own * I felt.

 

I don't know exactly what you're talking about here regarding my contradictions. But for some things, your only option is to jump to conclusions. Prince Andrew, and all of the other guests on Epstein's Island, with these things, you know you are never going to get any honest reporting, no MSM investigation never mind a fair open, and honest trial. With that, you can only really speculate.

If Brand is guilty of rape and abuse he should be punished accordingly. But it is still a possibility that it is a targeted cancellation of a dissenting voice in a time where there is a real appetite to control narratives. Time will tell.

 

Why does everything revolve around paranoid conspiracy theories these days?

Why would the mainstream media want to bring down someone like Russell Brand?

 

Jeez it's like the jury room in twelve angry men in here at times

 

Distraction from what's happening elsewhere.systematic attack from every media outlet. someone is getting close to joining all the dots

 

Joining all what dots?

What is happening?

 

I don't think it's a paranoid conspiracy. I think it's well within the realm of possibility.

He's spent the last 4-5 years building a platform speaking against the covid/lockdown/vaccine narrative parroted by almost all of the legacy media channels and newspapers. If there is the possibility of the "next pandemic" or more lockdowns or net-zero disasters, having his voice censored would be a win for the pro-"next pandemic" agendas.

If he is convicted, that still doesn't equal his opinions on the last few years being incorrect. He will be charged and punished and then other, new alternative voices will become popular speaking against the same things.

 

I think the more realistic and predicted reason for his views was he was sweeping up all the gullible conspiracy theorists as he was aware the allegations were going to come out. His defence was always going to be he was the victim of a witch hunt.

How journalists and people can say his views on CV19 are behind this coordinated attack are absurd. It is unfounded paranoia that Brand has managed to whip up.

Watch these videos. This is who stands up for him. She didn't watch the programme, didn't know any of the facts and instantly leapt to the defence of Brand going down the CV19 conspiracy theory.




https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/cu...ations-bosses-money-claims-b2413490.html?ap=1

They criticise mainstream media, but this is the better alternative for facts and balanced reporting?

 

I think there's a chance he done it but also a fairly good chance it's a stitch-up.

Bear in mind this is a former addict and has slept with thousands of women. There's every chance he took * too far at some point. Definitely his whole gimmick was that he was a * and often used a lot of sexually aggressive or risque humour that could have been used to mask illegal behaviour.

By the same token, though, for a guy that's slept with so many women, the accusations apart from the main one seem a bit soft. In one case, the argument is 'I was 16', which is sleazy but not rape or anything. If that's the worst you can dig up out of the thousands of women he's pumped, maybe the story is that he's a sleazeball but not a rapist.

With regards to the motives behind a stitch-up, you don't really need him to be persecuted for being outspoken on COVID or anything. Cast your minds back to the Cliff Richard fiasco. On this forum at the time, everyone immediately assumed he was guilty, like everyone. And it was a total media stitch-up without any motive surroudning his politics. The BBC just wanted to distract from Saville case and turn it into a bigger narrative about sexual assault in 'entertainment' and everyone else was happy to get the paper buys and clicks.

After that, I don't buy * until the trial. Fool me once, shame on you, etc.

 

That sounds more like a conspiracy to me tbh mate lol. You think he was aware of these allegations from the start so decided to... continue to use his platform to talk about the news and politics and everything in between, grow an audience and somehow use it as a defence for rape and abuse accusations. His 6 million subscribers on YouTube will do * all for him if he's found guilty in a court of law. He's been demonetized now on YT anyway.

I'm honestly surprised it's taken them this long to find women to speak out against him tbh, albeit anonymously. He was a junkie * addict in Hollywood/BBC/C4 for 10 years. I wonder how many women they contacted.