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Peter Lawwell

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by eddiebhoy0109, Jan 13, 2015.

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  1. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Perhaps wanted out because of lawwell, left because of the club that came knocking?

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  2. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Negligence is a word I'd honestly have at the top of the list to describe him.

    His negligence to improve and take the club forward is what's continually brought us issues.


    The success we've had, I honestly believe is in spite of him.

    Half his time here, the Huns had died and everything we won, it didn't really matter who was in charge

    The first half, he over saw the downgrade of the squad on a massive scale. He implemented a (unofficial) wage cap (which we claim can be broken, but never do unless Desmond personally involves) 20 years ago, which meant our top earners wouldn't earn more than 30-35k a week, and that's normally reserved for the captain of the club.
    20 years later, it's still the same cap. It's never moved.




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  3. murphy88

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    The fact he is back at the club in any capacity, never mind chairman is a disgrace. Yes he oversaw a very successful domestic period. Put in in perspective though. A lot of the time we only had to be better than Aberdeen, Motherwell, and then a horrific hun team.

    When he come in, we had just been European finalists. Now the landscape of football changed massively over his time, no doubt doubt that, but ultimately he left us as minnows who were getting scudded regularly by teams who could only dream of competing on the same stage as us when he first come in.

    He held us back massively in my opinion with his total lack of ambition. His appointment of Lennon second time round was an absolute disgrace, and the Covid season come about because of that appointment.

    A lot used to bang the drum about “who could we get that is better” and it was utter nonsense. There is a reason he didn’t go to Arsenal when he had the opportunity. He was on a fortune here and it was easy money.

    He was out the picture for two season there and everyone agreed that our transfers were carried out in a much better way. Now he is back and we seem to be back to our usual. I don’t think that’s a coincidence. I don’t get the hardon that a lot of our support seem to have for him. It’s baffling in all honesty. When he left, that should have been that.
     
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  4. Twisty . Gold Member

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    Wouldn't be giving him credit for the achievments by Brendan Rodgers in his first spell either. Only reason he was here was because DD.

    If it was up to Lawell it would have been another Lennon or Deila in charge at that time. A cheap option.
     
  5. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    Then in my view you’re extremely naïve.
    This just reeks of refusing to give someone credit where it’s due because he undoubtedly played a part in our success as well as our failures.

    Won’t comment on the wage cap claim because there’s no way of knowing if there’s any truth in it.
     
  6. Liam Scales

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    And one that we’ve reached the latter stages of the Champions League 3 times as well. You won’t get me sticking up for him but pretending 2003 to 2020 odds when he left was an unsuccessful time for us is daft.

    We won a fuckload.

    But it should have been far more for the reasons you’ve said above.
     
  7. Moore Moorsum1888 Gold Member

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    I know theres a whole conspiracy that its this * return thts causing the issues..

    Im in on it now, Dry as * in the transfer market again. Back to not spending the money we receive. Get him to * with BR
     
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    His wee * of a son can get * anaw. Only one signing that’s impressed me so far since he started last summer, AJ. Early days for this summers transfers but still. Honking return
     
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  9. Big Shoes Tictok Gold Member

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    I can’t stand Peter lawwell I wish he’d gtf.
     
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  10. Doogs. Lustig your the one, you still turn me on.

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    Dunno why people say this like it’s fact. 7 times they’ve finished top 4 since Terry Venables was their manager in 89/90.

    They’ve had 4 consistent seasons recently but that’s it.
     
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    Sadly there are too many fans bought into Lawwels policy saying we can't break the wage cap or pay the big fee. It's utter bollocks. If we want to do anything in Europe we need to spend more than we have been doing. The money needs to be on the pitch , and not in the form of gems or projects.
     
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    There are too many fans absolutely clueless about how difficult it is to attract players to play in Scotland.
     
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    We still managed to bring good signings during Ange's tenure. It's a matter of effort in presenting ourselves to the player. Juranović was a big coup, and so was the top Dutch league scorer.
     
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    It’s not though. This is an excuse that gets peddled just as much as we can’t get good players until the end of the transfer window.

    Yes if we are targeting players in the top 5 leagues it’s difficult to convince them to play in Scotland, the transfer fee and wages could be an issue.

    You’re telling me that it’s hard to convince good players playing in Norway, Sweden, Hungary, Belgium, Holland, Greece etc… not to come to Scotland?

    Outwith a few select clubs in that whole list of countries we actually pay more in wages. Our wage bill once you strip out the top leagues is very high compared to similar leagues and some overall better leagues.

    We can mostly definitely attract good players to Scotland and pay them good wages. Teams with smaller budgets playing in similar leagues outperform us in Europe every season, what’s their secret as it must be just as difficult to attract good players for them too?
     
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    Just remember lawwell had Ivan Toney at Lennox town and for the sake of £1.5 million he decided not to pay the extra money and go for the Ajeti the * is holding the club back and don't want him in the club at any capacity.
     
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    An inconvenient fact for the armchair ancelotti's.
     
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    Another made up 'fact'.

    Toney said last week he knocked us back as he wasn't guaranteed to be the main striker.
     
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    It is though and it’s not an excuse. A mate of mine works as a data analyst at a pro club in a good league. He’s worked at clubs in three stronger leagues than our own. What players and staff all have in common is that they view our league as * and they all see the EPL as the holy grail.

    An uncomfortable truth is that going to Scotland isn’t anywhere near as attractive to players as some think.

    We can get good players, we’ve seen them. But the reason we struggle to build from a position of strength is because the best players we can get (Jota, Edouard, Dembele), don’t tend to hang around for very long. So we never really get to build the squad up as we’re always having to replace a quality player somewhere on the pitch.
     
  19. Bob Loblaw Gold Member Gold Member

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    There’s definitely an element of truth to it. We can certainly afford to pay players, but if it’s a straight choice between us and a Bundesliga, Ligue 1, La Liga or Premier League team? Unfortunately they’re going to pick them near enough every time.

    The key is finding these players before anyone else does. And that’s reliant on having the right scouting networks in place. There’s also an element of risk to it. But that risk can pay off massively.

    I’d also like to think we could bring through youth but we’re pitiful at doing that. There’s also limited development opportunities for project players due to lack of any reserve league. That probably puts them off too.
     
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    It also doesn’t help to attract players when we haggle over a few hundred thousand for them. Such as John McGinn.