Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

A week to save his credibility.

Needs to get a backbone and demand and get players of the required quality in the door this week. It's far too late, but this is the last run in for the window, it's now or never as such.

He's then got the Huns game, anything but a convincing win there and he's gonna find it tough to see out this season.

Both these need to happen.

I've no major issue with his return, wasn't my first choice nor one I would have entertained given the choice, but it is what it is and he is a good manager.

But he's barely shown any of the qualities that made him the manager he was known for over his career.

He's literally in this job and looks like a defeated man who's not got an idea.
He's not showing any charisma, fire, energy or enthusiasm about the job, about himself or the players even.

He honestly comes across as a defeated manager, the same way he did at the end of his time.

He's a Shved interview away from chucking it.

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* me, I didn't see the game today, but from comments in the match thread and that BR comment I'm starting to think he came back here to stick it to Lawell and force the fat * heated driveway * to pay him off early doors.

Ange leaving was brutal and it's looking like the board have - once again, * it. Sometimes I hate being a Celtic fan, I really do.

 

The more time passes, the more I think he didn't want to be here, but "had" to apply in order to win a few titles and fix his CV so he can go back down south. We're a chore to him. He thought this would be an easy, boring chore. The board were stunned by Ange's departure, and scrambled to find a manager- they thought they hit the jackpot with the rehire. Big name, but low stock, so he wouldn't ask for big signings. Turns out, he can't even effectively use what he has (and those are SPFL beaters, proven ones).

 

Reading this got me thinking.

He doesn't need the money, but he is certainly a Celtic fan.

Perhaps his end goal is to prove the return of lawwal is a disaster, sacrifice himself to show lawwal up and get us to hound the * out?


One can but dream.

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We need quality players who are going to enhance the team NOT projects. A lot of dross still needs to be removed from the squad.

 

A convincing at Ibrox? Bite your hand off for a point..

 

Rodgers stock wasn't that low that he wouldn't get another epl job some stage this season


He doesn't need Celtic in the slightest.


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Same man, but it wouldn't be enough to convince most fans we are on the right path.

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Think most would take that, going into the International break etc..

 

I honestly would, just so we didn't fall behind.

But it's brutal to be in that mindset. Hate the feeling that we need a draw even just to get us to the break and hope we use the time off wisely to let the management fix things.

We shouldn't be like this


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If he had a good offer, he'd have taken it. Why would he come here, when all our board have to offer are signings confined to a small wage budget and an unimpressive max transfer value? The guy doesn't even know how to operate on a non-EPL budget. And if he loved the club, he'd put it in front of his own ego and tactical desires.

Put me, a guy who has no badges in charge of Celtic, and I'd at least look as if I care about results and I'd order Gavin Strachan to dig up any files on Ange's old instructions, for starters. I think any sane person could do that, as long as he/she is practical and wishes Celtic well. BR is an egotist who thinks the only person worth seeking advice from, is himself.

 

I know people are still trying to convince themselves he came back with assurances, he'd get this and that in regards to transfers.

Truth be told, he's came off a horrific season with Leicester, his stock couldn't be lower.

Additionally, he's a fan of the club, I think he's came back wanting to fix things between the support and himself.

The next week is absolutely massive, get another 4 players in and win at Ibrox and the support will fully be behind him again.

Do the above but draw at Ibrox and we'll still be ahead of them on points and can regroup during the international break.

A loss and I don't see him coming back from it, I know it's only 2 points but we'll have zero momentum.

 

Would need.to win the Champions League to get me.back on side .
I can't even look at him

 

He's a Sevco defeat away from becoming the walking dead.

No chance the board sack him, and would be stupid to do so, but the fans will mark his card and any poor results or displays will pile pressure on him.

He literally has a week to save his Celtic career imo.

 

If this was a new celtic manager I would give them benefit of doubt but he's been and * us over before.

Travelling 3 hours 1 or maybe twice a month to watch us to come home to 1 or 2 arm chair huns laughing really hurts.

 

Plenty of managers have failed in the epl, then went on to another epl job.

Thing with Rodgers is, he didn't completely fail though. Liverpool was a success, as was Swansea and he done well his first two years at Leicester.
His stock isn't that low.

Far worse managers have * it before him and done alright, without needing a Celtic sort of job to build their reputation back up.

If anything, because of how well he done first time here, he's at a higher risk of * his reputation by being here, simply by the nature of anything he does won't match the level of success he had before.

What assurances or promises he was made we don't know. What sacrifices he made, we also don't know. But it all seems a bit * weird whatever way I look at it, for why he has came back.

If he's been made promises to push on in Europe (how he made it sound in his first big presser), then he's being massively let down.
If he's had to sacrifice any transfer control and accept what the club give him, then it is a massive sacrifice and was part of the reasoning he walked the first time (ala Shved comments and more).

I just don't understand it.

Well I do, I understand it as the club looked in a better place under Ange and with lawwal so far to *, but his return has changed the out look of the club and we are back to type.
How long Rodgers sticks it now is anyone's guess if he is gonna be at heads and * off with the board as before.

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Fully agree.

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Biggest problem for me is that Anges team was set up to move the ball quickly and with intensity from back to front with players making forward runs off the ball.

Maeda and Abada, specifically, made runs off the ball to exploit the space in the wings and down the outside of the defender to the byline or into the back post if the ball on the opposite side.

The issue for me with Rodgers side is that we are to slow to move the ball from back to front and too many side and back passes allows the defence to regain their position, often some of these passes are not required and just allow the opposition to defensively set and get player behind the ball.

When opposition is behind the ball, Maeda and Abada having to come inside when the get the ball or forced wide when tightly marked. But they lack quality in the final third, when their strength is running with the ball in space in behind the defence or on the counter.

Everything with Rodgers seems to go through the pivot (mcgregor) as well and sometimes we need to change it up and break the lines with more direct passes. Its why its so predictable and slow in the build up.

Yang, like Jota, able to beat a man with his dribbling skill and sharp changes in direction and so can/could play either style.

I think Palma will make a huge difference but we need an injection of pace and purpose in our play and that starts at the back.

Edit: to continue on from that..

I dont think some realised how much a loss Jota would be. For me one thing that went unappreciated about him was his delivery and some of his set piece deliveries into the box, such as the one for CCV at Ibrox, which were deadly and hit with such velocity and dip/movement that it had the defences at 6s and 7s.
He could take his man inside, outside and had a cross off the inside and outside of his foot as well. He was so dynamic and could open up games for us with his pace, skill or technical quality, even when not directly involved in goals.
I think had he stayed, we would have seen him scoring more from direct freekicks on goal, such as the one at the Bernabeu.

 

There were no promises. He himself said a month ago that there was no plan to sign £15M players. He knew what he was getting into, judging by that comment. You're right about him risking his reputation here, but he's too self-absorbed to realize failure in Scotland is possible. P. Lawwell probably has some control at the club. But Rodgers has not opposed this in any way, given his statement. He might not like it, but he probably agreed to the terms offered by Desmond because he thought this would be easy.