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Peter Lawwell

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by eddiebhoy0109, Jan 13, 2015.

Discuss Peter Lawwell in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. FrankMcCallum

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    Didn’t he leave and then recently get reappointed as chairman?
     
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  2. horseshoe

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    He stepped down as CEO but was always keeping a seat on the board, it was reported that's what was happening at the time, people just don't read past the headlines and went YASSSSS HE'S GONE!!!!! and then OH NO HE'S BACK!!!! when he never really went anywhere.
     
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  3. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    He held a place on the board for those 2yrs, so its difficult to know, if he had any influence at all..

    I know as Chairman, he'll definitely have more influence now, but Nicholson should be dealing with the day to day running of the club and is ultimately responsible for our transfer activity..

    Not sure how Nicholson can be praised so much for the last 2yrs but not criticised, IF this window doesn't deliver...

    It may still and if it does who will get the praise?

    Nicholson will get the plaudits and Lawwell only the criticism..
     
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  4. FrankMcCallum

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    I’m not an expert by any stretch on the structure of public limited companies, but I’d presume the chairman would be more influential than a board member and his opinion would carry more weight, or am I miles off it?

    Genuine question.
     
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  5. john2061

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    Our transfer dealings were quick and efficient with one right back being sold and Johnson brought in quickly last year and now we are back to the same old * of waiting at the last minute and trying to get signings in .
     
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  6. horseshoe

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    It's definitely a step up from being 'just' a board member yeah, but he was still here on the board the whole time Ange was boss, people keep claiming he was gone and that's why we were succesful, and he should never have been 'allowed' to come back because he's going to ruin us now, when he was never gone or going to leave.
     
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  7. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Aye, definitely..

    But, if Lawwell is such an influence would that suddenly just stop?
     
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  8. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Normally the ones defending lawwell to be fair.

    We all know be held an unofficial position to help him remain within a UEFA position as well.

    So he never "left left" but he was out the door and away from any position of influence.

    During that time, things worked well, he comes back, our manager wants out and we return to type.

    How anyone can just deny any sort of connection is amazing.
    Maybe it is all coincidence and maybe lawwell is misunderstood by the fans.

    But to deny the logic and concerns is madness, considering the circumstances.

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  9. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    It really is impossible to know, exactly how much influence he had in the 2yrs he retained a seat on the board.. he will have more now, granted but again how much..

    Ange leaving had * all to do with Lawwell mate, come on..:56:

    Let's see where we're at come end of the window..
     
  10. horseshoe

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    Ange left because he got an offer from a huge EPL club, he was never turning that down, there's nothing to suggest he wanted out because of Lawwell, he'd be down there now no matter who was in charge at our club because that's where all ambitious managers and players want to be.
     
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  11. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    No offence and not to cause an argument, but it always ends up with a "wait and see" and giving them more time.
    Everything to suggest, Ange isn't a guy to be * around, almost every manager under lawwell left because of him. Deila and mowbray the obvious exceptions.

    Plenty of circumstantial evidence that lawwell can be the cause of it.


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  12. Bob Loblaw Gold Member Gold Member

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    While I’d love to believe that he’s personally the cause for the sudden resumption of snail-paced activity in the transfer market, I don’t think he has enough influence to be solely responsible.

    I think it’s far more likely that Ange had more of an influence on transfers than Nicholson et al, and that praise placed on Nicholson for the past couple of years was maybe misplaced. I also think Ange had far more of a say regarding transfers than Rodgers had or ever will.

    What really * me off about Lawwell isn’t conspiracies about him penny pinching and controlling from behind the scenes. It’s the fact that he was able to weasel his way back into a position of relative authority, having already treated the club like his personal ATM for the last decade +. It doesn’t matter how financially well run we were under him, he always prevented us from meeting our true potential.
     
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  13. HTG "I have an uncle who does Yoga"

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    This is my thoughts on the matter.

    Nicholson has been rightly praised in the past, but questions need to be asked of him and Rodgers, not Lawell, why its been so slow so far.
     
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  14. HTG "I have an uncle who does Yoga"

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    Good point regarding Ange.

    I remember, as early as February in 2022, that there were concerns that almost everything transfer wise was running through Ange, and the repercussions if he left.

    With how this summer has went, I think it's pretty clear we heavilly relied on Ange, or more likely his contacts, regarding a lot of players. Yang, Holm, Hyeok and Tilio were clearly Ange signings, and Lagerbielke was suggested by Starfelts agent, that leaves Nawrocki as our only properly scouted signing.

    It's a bit grim, and I hope the board have learned from it. Its cost us the League cup so far, let's hope it won't cost us the League.
     
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    Roy Keane is quoted as being told he had to have Kennedy.
    Lennon wasn't allowed his old back room team.

    Seems pretty forced to me

    Anyway the Kennedy situation was just used as an example as it was 1st thing that came to mind.

    Could have went for signing players managers didn't know or want
    Not signing players managers wanted
    Not re-signing players mangers wanted kept.

    Bigger picture. Lawell is a * * who should be nowhere near our club
     
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  16. HTG "I have an uncle who does Yoga"

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    Ange left because he had an offer from a club that typically finishes top 4 in the EPL, to say he left because of Lawell is just silly.
     
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    He needs to get Tae *.HH
     
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    And we seem to have a historic relationship there too. Zurawski and Juranovic signed from them - maybe others.? Definite feeling of a lack of avenues when you look at it like that. We don't have a clue what's going on though.
     
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  19. HatsmyBhoy

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    Has always put the "old firm" before Celtic.

    I have no doubt that he thinks protecting the "old firm" brand is in Celtics best intererst.

    But * him and * them, we are not half of anything.
     
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  20. HTG "I have an uncle who does Yoga"

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    Aye agreed, you could even say that Palma came from an Izaguirre recommendation :fear:

    It's something we need to sort, get this window out the way and properly focus on fixing our scouting.
     
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