Jota - Welcome Home!

Folk talking about life changing money get it right its greed pure and simple were talking about here.

This isn't a kid with F all working on a building site he's on life changing money just now, if he wanted to negotiate a new contract he'd be on more money or wait for a move to a top 5 league to receive the recognition any footballer craves

 

Do you guys not have any morals???!??!







I mean you do-gooders could atleast take the doe and twist narrative. “Better off in my pockets than that of an oppressive state…”

cmon guys for that kinda dosh get a little inventive

 

I wouldn't go to Saudi and I'm certain of it. Especially if I was already on a footballer's salary and playing for a big club. I could have gone a few years back and made 3-4x more money than I did at the time, but I wasn't interested.

There's also a massive difference in someone on a small annual salary being offered 10 million a year and a footballer already on a million pound salary being offered it. Again, this isn't a Martin Boyle type of player we're talking about where one payday is the difference between retiring comfortably and a life of uncertainty after football. This is a guy who already makes more in a week than some of us will make in a year. A guy who has the talent to go far in football and who could have his pick of teams in the big 5.

It signifies greed and a lack of ambition from his agent, himself and everyone involved. It's great business on our end though.

 

I'm gutted he is going, great player and my son's favourite player, he is devastated... however What I dont understand is... When we are looking at signing anyone we always say pay x he plays for x years, we sell him on for X profit it's great business bla bla bla...

We then pay x sell for x ... Make x and now the player is either a Judas or a money grabbing so and so for leaving us.. this is a prime example of a trading policy that works and is exactly what we should be doing.

 

100%.

 

He has the chance of securing a future for his children, his grand children and potentially beyond that.. There’s wealth and there’s generational wealth.

you see it in golf.. Ian Poulter for example is worth £60million. But was offered the chance to earn outrageous amounts of money for doing the same thing, cya!

Jota is young enough to go there for a few years earn a fortune then back to play in Europe.. Extremely sensible in my opinion, he’s not greedy

 

From my point of view, he's entitled to take the money if that's what he wants. Equally, I know that some people would prioritise their career development over the money and look for an EPL move (I'm pretty sure that's what I'd do in his place) and I even believe some people would choose to stay at Celtic (probably a small minority these days, though).

At the end of the day, different people have different priorities. Meanwhile, I genuinely hope he can still achieve the things he wants to achieve in his career.

On the issue of greed, I think anyone who takes a serious look at modern football and says they don't see greed running eveything sees something very different from me; but I'm not comfortable locating this greed in very young men like Jota who have been seduced by these numbers.

I don't know how to explain it logically; but my gut feeling is that greed is driving this but that Jota is not being greedy. If I think of myself at his age, I don't know how I could have resisted being seduced by this. The numbers would have set my imagination on fire.

 

It is greed, Poulter is just one example he was a decent golfer but struggling to earn decent prize money in the PGA competing against better players and is further towards the end of his career.

Compare that to some of the players that turned LIV down because they have ambition.

Again context you can understand why a 40 odd year old Buffon or Ramos would take it because they have been successful and its one last payday but Jota if he goes will never reach his possible potential.

 

Is it? None of us know his motivations for this, if he even is going. Yes, it could be greed, he might want to spend £10m a year on hookers, booze and drugs on his round the world trips. He might be thinking he could give 90% of it to charities to feed starving children and still be clearing what he is earning here. It's far too easy to say why someone is doing something without having a * clue about their actual rationale.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until he is found out of his face in some drug den surounded by his harem of high class escorts.

 

Celtic are holding out for a record breaking transfer fee of more than £25m for wanted winger Jota.

Parkhead chiefs spent the weekend in talks with Saudi Pro League big guns Al-Ittihad over the blockbuster move with the 24-year-old already agreeing personal terms of up to £10m per year. Record Sport understands Jota has a clause in his Hoops contract that will automatically trigger a hike in wages from £35k to £45k per week if the club rejects a bid of at least £25m. Celtic are looking to bank even more for the sale – and smash the Scottish record set by Kieran Tierney’s £25m move to Arsenal in 2019.



Sources suggest the clubs are close to agreeing terms and the Saudi switch could be sealed in the next few days.

 

It's interesting to see ordinary working people talking about "generational wealth" in this positive way now. We used to class wealth you earned yourself through hard work and talent and wealth inherited down family lines quite differently.

 

Jota's still young enough that he can go over there for a few years, rake it in and come back to europe, it's not a career ending move like some are suggesting. He's been great for us but it's not like he's an absolutely elite level player that man city or barcelona are going to pick up, he could go to those leagues but it wouldn't be for the top teams, so he might never win anything for the rest of his career anyway, might as well make the money while it's there.

 

I’m actually surprised we’re playing as high as 35k p/w

 

It's not career ending, but he's 24 now. If he has ambitions of ending up at a Liverpool or a Man City in his prime, or even an Arsenal or a Spurs (perhaps more realistic) then he needs to be joining a club like Brighton or Brentford around now. If he goes there for 2 years, he'll be 26 and ready for a big move. If he goes to SA, the lost years won't be impossible to pull back (2 years at a smaller EPL club and he'll be 28 so still in his prime) but it will make it more difficult: firstly because he'll have lost 2 years of the kind of development you only get by playing against elite defenders (so far, the Saudis don't seem to be buying elite defenders) and secondly because it leaves him far less margin for error, such as serious injury.

 

I doubt we will. Even CM is only on 30k from what I can find on Google.

 

Jota on the Ching

 

Most expats that work there work there for that exact same reason, if your being paid £20 an hour they'll pay 40 tax free. That's why there is so many ex-Brits/Americans over there. Then they all move into compounds with Starbucks, McDs, KFC, Papa Johns etc it's like working at home away from home, then if you go into Jeddah it's like going to Dubai. Very wealthy and very vibrant.

 

I hope he is found like that, because it's not the rich people who are doing that that are killing our economy and making ordinary people poorer. It's the rich * that don't spend the money in the real economy but use it to buy more and more assets other people have to pay to use, sucking more money from working people in rents, mortgages and various charges that companies have to pass on to us, money that they then use to buy even more assets to suck in even more money (with the occasional tax payer bailout along the way) and round and round until now when young people can't afford to buy a house or start a family, life expectancy has started falling and our * children are getting shorter. That's real greed.

In contrast, if Jota wants to blow 190k a month living la vida loca, he's not actually hurting anyone. I hope he does.

 

I've always said the same and that's where the problems lie in most 'western countries'. Us the working class be it paid, self employed, ill long term or short term, on benefits etc. Near all of them get their money and every single penny goes back into the system, tax, petrol, rent, food, electric, bills, the wee bit you do get to enjoy yourself is a godsend. The rich, they just horde the cash in high interest accounts where if they live within the interest going in that wealth isn't ever going to go down. Then if they buy a high end item, they go to brokers to avoid paying excess taxes. It grates on me these celebs or wealthy getting slapped on the wrist and a 4k fine, the same poor working class guy does the same will get the same penalty, but the rich guy pays it off leaving the court with spare change, the working class * has to pay that up for years, crippling them in every aspect in life until the burden is paid off.

 

Really? Human rights in Saudi say different