Jota - Welcome Home!

That’s the thing people are completely forgetting about all of this, an injury can change everything.

I’m gutted he’s going, think he’s a class player but he would be mental to turn this down at this stage of his career when it’s offered to him on a plate.

 

The chance of a heatstroke in Saudi Arabia is comparable to that of a career-ending leg injury. Yes, footballers want money. But there is being greedy, and stupidly greedy. He should just inquire with Tottenham or Brighton through his agent.

 

Due to people’s lifestyles and what they spend regarding footballers I’m not sure if him earning what he is here will sustain him for 30/40 years with his current lifestyle.

I mean the reports are saying he is on 26k a week here, or there a-bouts, take 45% off that for tax, that leaves him with 14,300 that’s not including agent fees rent etc.

To me and you and the average person it’s * good money, more than enough but that’s for another 10 years if he is lucky.

Now he hasn’t met a partner, might want to buy a big house etc and with earning more he will spend more.

Footballers who have been on more than him have gone bust with terrible spending, loads of have done it.

I agree with you regarding the goodness but the problem is this high end lifestyle of the rich and famous and these young footballers are out to get whatever they can.

It’s * I agree but I completely understand why they do it to be fair.

 

Heatstroke is a terrible thing, but he will have the best medical team on standby with the amount he will be earning.

You do know Jorge Mendes is his agent? He doesn’t give a * where he goes as long as he gets the best deal for him and Jota.

 

Fixed that last bit for you. Jorge Mendes is one of those agents that has way too much power, and is of course, in it for himself. Jota, as a promising player who is on the cusp of breaking into his country's NT, needs either no move this summer, or a move to a decent Top 5 European league side. Saudi Arabia is a career killer. No matter how many stars they get over there, there are going to be more local players of poor quality than stars from abroad (of which many are has-beens)- every country has foreigner quotas in football, or work permits.

The Saudi NT has only players from that league. Okay, they beat Argentina with great guidance of Renard. Fair does, they actually beat the side that would later win it all. But then they lost to a Poland without a midfield and shipped 3 to a sterile Mexico.

One reason why these Saudis don't play outside of their homeland is that they are paid so well, they have no motivation to grow as footballers. The second is the restrictive view of their FA. If their players started going abroad, they'd get corrupted by ideas such as freely talking to women or things like elections and free speech. Twats.

This is what Jota will be facing every few days if he goes. I wouldn't call that an inspiring work environment.

 

That's because I'm not arguing that he is making a foolish decision (I personally believe he is and have said as much but I don't really care if others disagree); I'm arguing against this poisonous notion that that anyone would take the money and anyone who disagrees is lying. Yes, there is a risk if he doesn't take it. There's a risk either way, actually. Life is about choices.

But when you are talking about lifestyles, you're talking about choices; he's literally already part of the 1% in terms of income, so we're not talking about responsibilities like putting food on your kids' table and a roof over their heads, we're talking about lifestyle choices. Again, while I personally think that prioritising that rather than choosing his next move so as to maximise his chances of achieving something in the game is foolish, I'm not trying to convince anyone else of that. But I must insist that it's simply not true that anyone would make the same choice or that anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

Again, choices. See above.

Well, I mean, look: firstly, if you think Ryan Christie and Stuart Armstrong can play in the EPL but Jota might not get an offer, then I really can't agree with you; but actually, it doesn't matter, because I'm not trying to convince you it's the wrong choice he's making. It's enough that there's a realistic chance of an EPL move for it to be the case that some people wouldn't make this choice and people who say they wouldn't aren't automatically liars.

 

Ratio and likes...* off and stop replying to me.. thanks weirdo. Absolute *

 

The rest I’ve answered in bold .

Regarding the last part, what have Christie and Armstrong achieved? Relegation battle and the other relegation. You are banging on about furthering his career using them two as a yardstick isn’t appealing really compared to what’s actually on offer.

If you put it on the terms of using them
Both then he would be mental to turn down the money.

 

Call me cynical but I don't belive it for a minute. The folk who a dead certain just now will probably reconsider if they were on the receiving end.
You'd need to be sickeningly wealthy to turn down 10m/year.

Think of the good you could do with that money in addition to looking after your family.

 

You never fixed anything for me at all. Getting him 200k a week is working for his player.

the rest I’ve replied in bold.

 

Didn't modric just turn down near £500m to go there? Good guy him

 

He's already - I'd imagine - sickening wealthy. He's at the end of the career and spent the majority of his at one of the richest clubs in the world and possibly been their highest earner after Ronaldo.

Jota is at the start of his career and might not get the chances Modric did with a move to Real.

Would Modric turn it down at 24? Possibly not.

 

I've mentioned foreigner quotas because at the end of the day, there'll be more Saudis Jota faces than those big stars. Unmotivated, bigoted guys who have it easy. a sprinkling of stars can't fix a * up league in a * up country.

 

All hypothetical since he has actually turned down more money than he's made in his career.

 

Yup. He's already made his money.

I'm never going to knock someone for moving for more money. It's the best way to get a pay bump and we all do it ourselves. We're hypocrites to criticise players for doing the same thing, especially since we come out of this better off also.

 

You are misrepresenting me. I haven't used Christie or Armstrong as a yardstick. That would be ludicrous, he's far more talented than them.

I never said he would definitely achieve anything in the game. I simply said that some people would prioritise giving themselves the best chance of achieving something. Apparently you think every single person on the planet would make the same choice you would and that anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

Is it really so hard to believe in the existence of some people who might not prioritise financial motives over career goals that you would actually rather call people liars than accept that?

I used to think the idea was hyperbole, but it really is true that money is a religious thing with some people.

 

I really enjoy how we're still arguing over whether you or you would move to Saudi Arabia for £200k a week.

The facts are no one is offering you it.

They've offered it to Jota and he's away.

Strange how individuals are having a pop at Jota or claiming the moral high ground but haven't questioned Celtic taking this money from the transfer.

Im all about how much we make from the sale and where these funds are going. We need to replace him and strengthen other areas.

 

What is being argued about is not what you say here: it's whether you or anyone else has the right to tell anyone else what they would do and to call them a liar if they claim they would do something different.

No, no one has offered me that kind of money, it's totally hypothetical; but please note that it was hypotheticals that started this off: "anyone would take the money", "anyone who says they wouldn't is lying". So if you want to invalidate the argument of people like me by saying that no one has offered us that kind of money, that's fair enough; but that equally applies to "anyone would take it and anyone who says otherwise is lying".

 

So you think Celtic should turn down £36 million? If reliable sources are to be believed.

 

I agree, it's really nothing to do anyone else what someone wants to with their career. Long as we get proper compensated and invest it well, all is good.