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Who could we replace Ange with?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Danny 4692, May 25, 2023.

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  1. Gundog Gold Member Gold Member

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    Rodgers.

    There are some sour memories but if we are winning games that is what matters. Would like someone who wants to come do the job and overtake 55, surley a job worth hanging on for, would Rodgers do that?
     
  2. Liam Scales

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    In a word? Naw.

    It’s a made up landmark for one really, he didn’t kick about for the 10.

    But either did Kieran Tierney. What’s important to our fans for point scoring and boasting isn’t important to those who are professionally minded. He’d want success, he could provide success.

    If we allow him the tools to have continued success that is professionally satisfying to his ambitions, then that could very well be part of it. Him coming back in the first place, if true, makes me edge towards that’s the sort of ambition he wants and not the type that he had at Leicester after leaving us,
     
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    1) He almost definitely is a Celtic fan, but fundamentally he’s a manager; that’s his connection to the game, and to any club at which he holds that position - whatever team he personally is a fan of is totally irrelevant to that (as we’ve seen in a positive way with Ange, mostly).
    It’s a relatively short career, and he’d been screwed over continually by Lawwell and co. He shouldn’t have just driven out of training and never darkened the door again. It was * poor. We all know that, but ultimately we pretty much had the league sealed by then, and with it a right good chance of a treble, which we of course went on to complete.
    2) How do you know what jobs Ange was or wasn’t offered? He wasn’t in the same position as Rodgers, and if he was, who’s to say he wouldn’t have done something similar? Can argue he’d have said a proper goodbye to players and fans, and generally conducted the process of leaving better, but I can virtually guarantee you that Ange left when the right job came up: not when it suited Celtic. That was a happy coincidence. 100%. That’s the way of it.
     
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  4. Liam Scales

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    I’ve pointed this out during his full tenure when it became obvious what a manager we had on our hands, but just look at when we got him - midway during a season, when he was building up a legacy at a team.
     
  5. BhoyFitz

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    Rodgers has a strong ‘sideways move’ vibe coming off of it.
     
  6. Liam Scales

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    Sideways movement right now is a Treble and Champions League involvement though, with very entertaining football. Sideways is about as much as I could hope for.
     
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    I * despair I really do.

    3 days ago there was about two people wanted this clown back.

    Now it's half the board. All convincing themselves about the so called merits of going back. "Safe pair of hands" , "entertaining football", "guaranteed success", "improving players", "definitely a Celtic fan".

    Rewriting history in their heads to justify a move for an absolute SNAKE of a man, out of fear it could be Maresca instead.

    Go back and read the things you wrote about this man in his last season. Even before he slithered out the back door in the night. You remember the GB banners right? Remember the doings we were handed in Europe? Remember Jack * Hendry? Marvin * Compper? Remember what Moussa said about him? What Boyata said about him? Remember his short terminism, refusing to sell players whilst their value nosedived? Remember only one shot on target against Sevco at Ibrox?

    The lack of self respect in here is * mind boggling. Like a shunned wife, convincing herself to take back a cheating husband. "He really is a good guy at heart".
     
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    Angry.

    I, like many others was sick of the turgid football the team was churning out, and fully expected him to wrap the league, and walk off into the sunset. I was tired of his transfer dealings and looking forward to getting a manager in who could actually spot a defender. And especially, sick of being horsed in Europe.

    I, stupidly, assumed that the club would be planning for this, and that we were going to kick on in the summer.

    When he left in the manner he did, I was angry. Angry at the disrespect he showed the club who breathed life into his career, and furious that he did for a team like * Leicester.
     
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  10. Liam Scales

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    That’s why we all went mental, really, the timing.

    This though, it became clear transfers wasn’t really down to him and was the reason we got sick of the leadership above Rodgers.

    but the biggest thing is, the anger being the feeling, it’s because we lost somebody of value. Or else you wouldn’t have gave a single *. Same as the rest of us,
     
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  11. Liam Scales

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    Do the same mate, and find one that’s critical about his ability to bring us success.

    the annoying thing for me is I’m well aware the guys is a self publicising grandiose *. But I’m fully aware he’s also exceptionally good enough at what I’d want off whoever takes over from here.

    And honestly, I’m that much on an emotional hangover from Ange, a don’t want any attachment to the next *, I just want success.

    kinda reminds me of WGS after MON.
     
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    Can't agree with that mate.

    He personally sought out the likes of Compper, who he invited to his home.

    I remember him talking up Jack * Hendry like he was Maldini. EVERYONE was scratching their heads in utter confusion at this. The only highlights to be found were of Hendry running the length of the pitch to slide tackle his own man.

    He ran KT into the ground. Those were HIS decisions. Not the Lawells.

    The anger we all felt , agreed, in part, was that we did see him as a valuable asset. But that anger was mostly directed at both the timing, AND the club in question.
    There's no anger at Ange, as its accepted that he left us for a once in a lifetime opportunity. Rodgers left us for Leicester * City. Leicester.
    It made us look small, tinpot, and made us feel unimportant.
    That, imo, was the root of the anger.
     
  13. Liam Scales

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    The KT point is my major, major anger with him mate. And he made Rogic take injections to play against the likes of Dundee, and he Calmac got the same treatment but just happens to be a freak of nature with how much he can go through year on year.

    Hendry had 2/3 great performances against us, and his first 2/3 games for us as well were very good. Turns out, he didn’t have the minerals, also turns out after that fact when we loaned him out thinking he was * with a £750k clause we could have got £5m for him due to his ability.

    He didn’t have the minerals for us. But we lost out on it when we wrote him off.

    Leicester have been far more successful than Spurs in the last decade mate. They weren’t long since winning the league with Rodgers taking over. * has Spurs won in, 50 odd year or something like that? Spurs have never won the league, ever. Leicester had won the league a few years prior.

    but the making us feel tinpot, small and unimportant, that’s the root of the anger I agree. And as much anger as I hold towards BR still, I think it was our hierarchy that thought like that more than anything.
    I’m also seeing a lot of anger at Ange btw but I’m mostly writing that off as * zoomers
     
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  14. thailandceltic From Immigration to Domination

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    Seriously mate you need to get * over it. The spurned lover routine is tiresome. Comparing iit to adulterous wives ffs haha.

    Also this tinpot Leicester thing is nonsense. They had just won the Premier league and were offering him millions to manage on the biggest stage of all just like Ange, Rodgers thanks to Leicester is a multi millionaire and A traffic cone could of guided us to the league after Rodgers left..

    Celtic at the time were doing the bare minimum under Lawwell and had zero ambition to kick on unlike Rodgers. He took a career decision which 99.9% of us here would of done. Stop taking it so personal.
     
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  15. thailandceltic From Immigration to Domination

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    Rodgers like Ange won the Big domestic games, that's all that matters here. The football like Ange wasn't always great to watch but he got the job done.

    As I've said I'd had preferred a different manager but if its Rodgers so be it. He comes back to a club in far better shape that are showing more ambition than his previous stint..
     
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    See this attitude, it’s what’s been at every single bit of our success over the last 12 years. The 9 season that was cut short under Lennon, as horrendously as he ended up failing us and as even more unforgivable as he talks about it, it was 2nd only to BR’s Invincible season and Ange this season.

    It’s not easy having that will to succeed every game, and to keep winning. We have the best opportunities to do it due to what we’ve built since Fergus saved and put that framework in place for us but * me, people need to realise the achievements and success we’ve had and are hammering home.

    It’s not a gimme. That’s why decisions like who will take over Ange is important.

    Celtic fans talking down or own success as anycunt could, is * bullshit.
     
  17. thailandceltic From Immigration to Domination

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    I'm not talking it down, when Rodgers left we were 8 points clear, league cup won and in the quarters of the cup I think? He didn't leave us in a mess like Lennon. We were 8 points clear of a very average hun team which was sufficient enough that even Lennon couldn't have * that up. He left us in a very decent position.

    Yes it stung a bit but let's be honest did anyone think we'd lose the league?

    I don't want him as manager but it looks like he is getting the job so people need to get over it.
     
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    Still remember the its definitely Howe and the strong Benitez rumours before that. Staying cautious with this one
     
  19. Liam Scales

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    Aye and at that exact time Rodgers had never won more than 1 game in Edinburgh I think, and we had one in the league and one in the cup coming up during the most tumultuous time as him as our manager. Neil Lennon’s Hibs against Rodgers Celtic was pretty much 50/50.

    Rodger left us with Olly Burke up top, on loan, Lenny put Eddy up top and not left wing when he took over and that made a difference. By the time BR left us, we were struggling like * but winning through sheer resilience and professionalism that he brought to the club. People forget now the 9 in a season that got cut short under Lenny the following year, it was by far better all round than Rodgers done agter the first season.
     
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    Rodgers like Ange won the big games. When we needed to skelp the huns, the huns were skelped.. And like you say he will bring a certain level of Professionalism. For me Rodgers worked with Lawwell with one hand tied behind his back, happy to do just enough in Scotland and Europe was an after thought, interested to see him work with a bit more backing.

    Rodgers maybe a risk but he looks alot less risky than some assistant to the assistant at City group.