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Who could we replace Ange with?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Danny 4692, May 25, 2023.

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  1. RalstonFanClubPresident

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    Agree that Rodgers did a good job at Leicester and there's no doubting that he's a fine coach. He might be the safest choice out of anybody who could come in right now. My concern would be around what state we're in 2-3 years from now given that most of his sides eventually regress.

    Whatever you think about Ange's departure, it's difficult to argue against the overall place he's left the club. Not only the success on the pitch, but the overall standards, recruitment, the work done with the academy, the connection between players and supporters. It felt like the club was consistently headed in the right direction under him and the last thing we want is to go backwards because BR falls out with Lawwell or signs a load of *.

    Kind of 50/50 on this one. Would probably still prefer Knutsen or Iraola, but maybe BR gives us the best chance of winning the league next season, which ultimately is the most important thing.
     
  2. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    I think we might go down the Maresca route given the CityGroup links and play style.

    High risk if we do given his stint at Parma but I suppose also high reward too. Given he was previously the under 23s City coach before he took that gig he should have a good knowledge of young players in England, which is where I imagine he'd do a bit of shopping.
     
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  3. Lewis Kerr

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    Listen, if Rodgers comes back a changed man (not gonna happen), wins the title at a canter, bags a domestic cup or two and gets us deep in the knockout stages in Europe, I'll put my * hands up, admit that I was talking * and praise the board for getting him in.

    But for whatever reason I don't see it happening. I've never rated him as highly as others have on here. There's too many red flag. And something else that no one seems to be mentioning is the significant role he had in getting Leicester relegated. You talk about FA cups and 5th place finishes but the disaster this season is glossed over.

    I have no idea why this is getting overlooked, but it's another major concern.
     
  4. RalstonFanClubPresident

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    Whenever someone mentions Maresca, my reservations over Rodgers disappear and I'm like 'yeah * it, let's get the rat in'.
     
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  5. Maestro 08

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    I don't know how you can't see it happening. It's already happened. He was drenched in silverware first time around and had us in to the group stages of UCL despite tortuous qualifying rounds.
     
  6. Jordann Gold Member Gold Member

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    That’s fair, I’m not sure how much I agree with the endorsements getting the jobs too much though, or at least not big jobs.

    Arteta has a history with Arsenal on top of being peps assistant and getting glowing reports. Kompany was at Anderlecht as a player then became manager and had a lot of history there. Michael Carrick and Kieran McKenna had some experience as assistants but didn’t get top jobs. Most players who get the top jobs have had experience at that club, and don’t just go from managers assistant at a large club to another large club.

    I could be wrong with that, but I can’t think of any of the top of my head anyway.

    But agree with the rest, if the choice is Maresca or Rodgers, Iraola or Knutsen I want any of them first.
     
  7. calmac23

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    Leicester went into the season after selling their captain/keeper and best defender, not replacing either.

    They had numerous players (Tielemans, Maddison) who clearly wanted to move on and ageing players (Vardy, Evans) who were once good, but are now far past their best.

    Rodgers finished 5th, 5th, 8th and won a cup, all while spending a fair amount less than the clubs above him. He did a great job at Leicester, and I think if they had kept him, would’ve narrowly stayed up.
     
  8. Jordann Gold Member Gold Member

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    I don’t know, I don’t think he’s done enough to earn the Celtic job but that’s just my opinion. I don’t think being a great coach is enough, otherwise why is Kennedy not being offered? He’s clearly highly rated, Ange wants him and Rodgers tried to take him.

    There’s so many available managers who are a lower risk that Maresca shouldn’t be considered, I don’t think I’m being disrespectful as the only reason he is in with a chance is the city group link (at least that’s my opinion).
     
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    There's plenty of managers we could go for outside of Maresca/Rodgers, and I hope the very least we try for them before plumping for either or.

    Knutsen/Iraola should be our main targets. Knutsen would be an absolutely fantastic signing, and Iraola is someone who I think done very well in Spain, but the big kicker is the rumours he's applied for the job. Big bonus if so.

    Obviously if Rodgers/Maresca get the job I'll fully back them, and as I said before I think Rodgers will almost guarantee some form of success next year, but I hope we're looking inbetween those 2.
     
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    Fully agree with this. Iraola, then Knutsen, then Rodgers and Maresca.

    I just think we’ll go with the less risky option in Rodgers.
     
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    Statistically he's probably their best ever manager. There's only one manager that's had a better win ratio than him and it was in the lower leagues. Most of the misgivings about him returning are around how he left and that's fair enough, I'm similarly minded and there is also a train of thought that you should never go back but purely from a managerial standpoint...there's no doubting his credentials.
     
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  12. Bob Loblaw Gold Member Gold Member

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    Still don’t like Rodgers as a choice. Let’s ignore the way he left and admit he’s a good coach. The recruitment was shambolic for the most part last time.

    Is it worth appointing him and seeing us win next season if a couple of years down the line the squad is filled again with substandard players that we’ve wasted a hefty sum on?

    If he gets the job I don’t trust him to be given the autonomy that Ange would have, and that alone will inevitably lead to friction later on.
     
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    Ultimately our goal has to be to overtake their trophy haul and keep our position as the dominant team at all costs

    Emotions taken out of the picture and Rodgers is the natural answer to that objective. He’s the most experienced of the candidates and has proven trebles with us.
    As long as people don’t view it as a long term appointment then I think it’d be a mutually beneficial partnership. Nothing is guaranteed in football but with the squad he will inherit and the coaching we know he brings im pretty confident he can hit the ground running and get us playing great football aswell, see if he only stayed for 2 seasons but helped secure us both titles, trophies and champions league spots then that’s fine with me

    And then you’d like to hope that Celtic and the scouting system have not just learnt a lot from ange’s reign and his signings but also Rodgers and his signings, if his ego can be managed then perhaps we can continue down the same path and model we were going down with Ange, their should be no reason why the scouting in the Asian market or type of player we are targeting should change that much.
     
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    Going down south for transfers would worry me. Fair enough getting some city youth projects up the road on permanents but I'd rather we continue to explore elsewhere majority of the time.
     
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    Coutinho and firmino were covert on signings sure congerton has been dining in the coutinho signing for years


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    Have to say I’d absolutely love a return for Rodgers.
     
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    I'll be very underwhelmed if it's Rodgers.

    If he gets the gig, I'll back him to the hilt but we have so many exciting options and it feels like we're taking a few step back into the past.
     
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    Would you rather Maresca?

    I'd rather Knutsen over Rodgers this time but I don't think he's going to leave Bodo and something tells me he isn't even seriously under consideration.

    The rumours of Iraola applying are just that for now, rumours.
     
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    It wasn’t that long ago when he had his Leicester team flying that he was being touted for some massive jobs. Winning the FA cup and consecutive 5th place finishes with Leicester isn’t to be sniffed at.

    Yes the way he left last time round still leaves a bitter taste but over time I’ve sort of got over it tbh and given the rumoured names I think he’d be a much safer appointment than most.

    I’d absolutely want Knutsen or Potter over him but at this point I don’t think either of them are close so I’d definitely rather Rodgers over the other names linked.
     
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