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Ange Postecoglou

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Mr. Slippyfist, May 29, 2021.

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  1. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    If you, I dont think you do, or anyone thinks Ange has certain rodgers type traits then be worried that he does a rodgers.

    However, while I cant give you a cast iron guarantee on this, from what I've seen of Ange (integrity/man of his word etc) and from what I've heard about plans being well under way for next season, with his blessing/input, this makes me not worry because I believe that Ange has none of the above's traits and is indeed a man of integrity/his word.
    So there is little/nothing to worry about, other than beating Inverness on Saturday and making History :ynwacelti
     
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  2. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    Ange Postecoglou last night insisted he hasn’t spoken to Spurs – and claimed his agents wouldn’t dare speak to him about his future as he prepares for a shot at the Treble tomorrow.

    The Celtic boss came out firing yesterday as he was installed as odds-on favourite to become Spurs’ next boss with the smart money on the Londoners’ making their move after the Scottish Cup final with Inverness at Hampden.

    Postecoglou is adamant that he has not allowed the frenzied speculation enter his mind as he focuses solely on delivering what would be the fifth domestic trophy of the six that have been available to him in his two seasons in Scotland. Asked if he has spoken to Spurs – or if his agent Frank Trimboli has – the 57-year-old said: “They know better than to ask me anything this week mate. They know me very well. They wouldn’t dare ask me about anything.

    “No (discussions about Spurs). I know you find that surprising. That’s hard for you to understand because you are not me.

    “You are not in my skin, you don’t live and breathe this job that I have and what Saturday means to me, these players, this football club. There is nothing more important – apart from my family obviously – than that game.

    “It’s not just about me. This club is planning for next year, planning to bring players in. There is a full range of conversations going on, but my focus is on making sure we win a game of football which is very, very important to us.”

    He is well aware his name is the talk of England’s capital but Postecoglou added: “It’s of interest to people and that’s understandable, but it’s just not in my world.

    “I’ve got too big a game on Saturday for this club to be contemplating any matter other than us being ready for Saturday. Within here there is no talk about it. In here we are talking about Saturday and talking about being ready and training and making sure we have an opportunity to do something special in terms of our season.

    “It doesn’t penetrate. It’s not as distracting as people may think it is. Obviously I have to address questions from the outside, but internally it’s not like people are walking around thinking about anything other than being ready for Saturday.”

    The Greek-Australian is determined to ensure he says or does nothing that could be construed as him having taken his eye off the ball with the Treble at stake. He said: “Saturday means everything to us, everything, so it doesn’t enter my sphere that I am going to be distracted – as I hope the players wouldn’t be – by matters in their own lives.

    “If our focus is not on Saturday then the stories become very, very different after the game. The questions become very, very different. The story on Saturday is not going to be anything other than, ‘did we win?’. I will do what I think is the most important thing in my role for the next four days, as I would in any other case, and that is to try and get the team to win the Scottish Cup.”
     
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  3. Lewis Kerr

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    That's all well and good but if he gets offered the job he's taking it..
     
  4. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    He was advised/told we would like him to stay but ultimately we wouldn't stand in his way, so it was his choice to make.
    No-one forced him to go.
     
  5. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    The more quotes come out from his press conference, the more it looks like he's away.
     
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  6. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    The 57-year-old has moved onto the Premier League side’s radar as their protracted search for a successor to Antonio Conte drags on. But with a Scottish Cup final against Inverness Caledonian Thistle on Saturday, Postecoglou strongly insisted he simply cannot afford to think about anything else as Celtic go in pursuit of a world-record eighth domestic treble.



    Here is every word Postecoglou had to say about his future as he sat down with daily newspapers.

    There’s so much talk about Tottenham – is there anything you can say about it?

    “It’s of interest to people and that’s understandable, but it’s just not in my world. It’s not the first time it has happened this year and I have been pretty consistent in making people understand what I am about and what I am like. I’ve got too big a game on Saturday for this football club to be contemplating any matter other than us being ready for Saturday. Within here there is no talk about it. I get it there is more in your work space. You think, ‘jeez, it’s everywhere.’ In here we are talking about Saturday and talking about being ready and training and making sure we have an opportunity to do something special in terms of our season. It doesn’t penetrate. It’s not as distracting as people may think it is. Obviously I have to address questions from the outside, but internally it’s not like people are walking around thinking about anything other than being ready for Saturday."


    Will that change after the game on Saturday?

    “There are a million things to think about after Saturday, including the holiday I am going to have. To look beyond that, I just can’t do. I can’t see anything past the game because that’s what I have always done. I mean this is not the first time this has happened this year. I think I have been pretty consistent in saying it doesn’t enter my field of thought when there is something so big in front of me. That’s where my responsibility lies to this football club.



    This seems to carry a bit more weight than other links?

    “This time last week it was a different story. It was somebody else linked. That’s just the way it works. Whether it carries weight or not what is important to know is that it makes no difference to me. It makes no difference to the way I behave or think or prepare. I didn’t wake up this morning thinking about anything other than getting training right and making sure we are ready for Saturday. I understand that’s not how everyone else thinks. But you are not invested in this football club. You are not Celtic supporters. You are not part of this club like I am, and the players are. Saturday means everything to us, everything. So it doesn’t enter my sphere that I am going to be distracted – as I hope the players wouldn’t be – by matters in their own lives. If our focus is not on Saturday then the stories become very, very different after the game. The questions become very, very different.”

    What have you said to the people who advise and represent you?

    “They know better than to ask me anything this week mate, let me tell you. They know me very well. They wouldn’t dare ask me about anything.”




    So, no conversation about Spurs this week?

    “No. I know you find that surprising. I haven’t spoken to them [my representatives] about a million other things going on here as well. It’s not just about me. This football club is planning for next year, planning to bring players in. There is a full range of conversations going on, but my focus is on making sure we win a game of football which is very, very important to us.”

    Texts from Celtic fans haven’t been about the cup final, they’ve been about what’s happening with you…

    “What will they be texting if we don’t win on Saturday? I will tell you what they will be texting. And that’s the trick, isn’t it? You all want to take me there, but I know what is most important right now and that is not the most important thing. Because there are players who aren’t here next year, very much so. Absolutely. So, the story on Saturday is not going to be anything other than, ‘did we win?’ Because if we don’t win then I can’t answer those questions if I am sitting here talking about something other than winning on Saturday. That’s hard for you to understand, I know that, because you are not me. You are not in my skin, you don’t live and breathe this job that I have and what Saturday means to me, these players, this football club. There is nothing more important – apart from my family obviously – than that game.”



    But it doesn’t have to be one thing or the other, you can walk and chew gum at the same time?

    “Why? Who says that? Do you think the person who wins The Masters or Wimbledon thinks about all these other things [that you’re thinking about]? Or does he think about winning? I am talking about elite sport here. Maybe you don’t understand or conceptualise that. But it is not just elite sport, it is anything you want to do in life; do you think people who achieve things and teams who achieve things can be that easily distracted that they chew gum and walk at the same time? You really think that’s the message? You think I’ll walk into training and say ‘hey boys, what are we all doing after training? Let’s go out and have a drink and relax.’ No, mate, it is not how it works."

    But can you compartmentalise?

    “I’d love you to be in my shoes and know what my world is and make sure that on Saturday, we perform to the levels we can. You don’t understand that because you’d love the opposite to happen. You’d love for there to be a story that we aren’t successful. That would rock your world. Not because you want ill of me, but that would be unbelievable - imagine the headlines you could come up with. That is what generates interest. I have lived that; every weekend we have a game there are only two stories that can be told.


    Is the reality that if you don’t win on Saturday, it will be ‘Celtic were distracted by talk of Ange going to Spurs?’




    Spot on. You’ve got that headline ready. That is the truth. The fact I have spent 25 minutes to get you guys to understand that’s not what’s happening, eventually that story gets out. That is why I am on super alert because I am not going to allow anyone to say that.”

    Can you understand fans’ anxiety with the situation, though?

    “I understand that, and I understand yourselves because you have a job to do. In your world this is the talk of everything. I understand all that. But I am kind of hoping that maybe people understand me. If they don’t, I get it and it is not interesting and it is a lot more mundane, and people think I am going to bat these things away because it works in my favour. It is not what I am about. I will do what I think is the most important thing in my role for the next four days, as I would in any other case, and that is to try and get the team to win the Scottish Cup.”



    Clearly you have put heart and soul into Celtic. You’ll have done that everywhere, but is it different here?

    “No. I do hope I have put everything into it. The ramifications of what I have done is greater here because of the passion and the interest here. Not that there was less passion in Japan and Australia or anywhere else I have worked, it was still there, but just the intensity of the interest here means that it is all encompassing. It means you deal with a lot more. I have yet to see somebody who walks and chews gum and is really, really successful. If anything what people have told me is you’ve got to get more balance in your life and I keep saying there is no balance. Apart from family, this is it.”

    Is being that driven natural to you?

    “I don’t know if it’s natural but that’s how I’m wired, how I am where I am. You’ve got to remember, from where I started 26 years ago, to be here I’ve had to be almost perfect in my coaching. Any missteps along the way and I would have struggled to get anywhere near European football, and now I’m at such a massive club. I’ve had to be driven, that was the only way I could see it happening. I couldn’t do it if I was just dipping my toe into things.”

    From coming in two years ago to the speculation this week, there’s been constant talk around you…

    “Yeah, and that’s where the discipline comes in. I’ve never worried. As you all know, when I came here it wasn’t as if I was getting great reviews. People say I handled it really well, but the reason I handled it well is the same reason I’m sitting here handling this. That’s who I am. I’m not trying to pretend to be something I’m not – I would never have survived that early period if I wasn’t able to be really focused on my role and not get distracted by things being said about me, whether that’s before or after I started. There was kindness too, and that’s fair enough because no one knew who I was.”

    Do you think about life after Celtic?

    “No, because I’ve never done that my whole career. Starting off in Australia, I don’t know how you could chart a course to where I am today, apart from one way and that’s doing the job I’m doing the best as I can, trying to be successful and seeing where that takes me. I’ve never said: ‘I’m going to go from here, to there, then to there.’ Every move I’ve made is because I thought there was another good challenge, something that’s going to get me growth. I love a challenge: ‘There’s another one, that’s where I’m going to go next’. But it’s not been in the sense that I’m going to do two years here, three years there, five years there and move on



    Has the Premier League always been a long term goal?

    “Not a goal. This football club plays in the Champions League, like everyone else I want to be competing at the highest possible level, wherever that may be. That’s how I got to a World Cup with Australia because I wanted to test myself against the best teams in the world. All of us, that’s what we want to do. It’s not like I’ve said: ‘Right, in five years’ time I’m going to take over the national team and go to a World Cup.’ It landed on my doorstep at the right time, because there’s so many things that need to be aligned for these things to happen.”

    You’ve said you struggled to get interviews in the past – do you take satisfaction from being linked with these clubs?

    “That would be me being driven by those external things. Well, maybe not driven by it but what I’m trying to say is I’ve always had my own self-belief as to what I could do. That’s what sustains me. Whether other people saw that or not, it’s out of my control – all these other things are out of my control. I can’t change people’s perception of me or what they think of me. All I can do, is do the job to the best of my ability, stuff that I really love, enjoy and am passionate about, until the day comes when I’m not able to do it anymore. Then I can be satisfied that I’ve given everything to the thing that I was most passionate about in my life, apart from my family. I’ve loved football from the moment I can remember and wanted to have a life in football. When I get to the end, I want to look back and make sure that I’ve done that.”

    A young man’s game these days – do you still have so much to do in a finite time?

    “I don’t think about that, because if you start thinking that the clock is ticking or you won’t get opportunities… whatever’s going to be in the rest of my football career as a manager will happen because I do what I do well. That’s the only thing I can control. I can’t control anything else. I could be the most successful coach ever and people might not give me an opportunity because they say ‘he’s Australian’, or ‘he’s over the age that’s acceptable’. If they want to find something, they will. But it’s not going to stop me doing what I want to do.”

    Whenever you do leave, you'll be leaving a lot behind...

    "Absolutely. That's why I'm so determined to try to deliver on Saturday. I'm all in here. The support I've had is unbelievable, throughout the whole club and how the supporters have embraced me. I'm all in here. You can't be all in if you are thinking about something else. It just doesn't work like that. That's why Saturday is so important to me. I really feel this is an opportunity to cap off a really special year for this group of players, the staff and for everyone involved at the football club and our supporters. That's where my focus is."
     
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  7. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    I'm glad I have more respect for him than you do but each to their own I guess.

    IF he does do what you say then he has done a rodgers and there is nothing/very little we can do about that.
     
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    Keeps talking about the club planning. Club moving on with plans for next season
     
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    Speculation seems to have * him off


    Good ( I'm now entering the bitter stage lol)
     
  10. horseshoe

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    I really don't get how fans of any club keep repeating myths about forcing players to be sold, if we could force players out then ajeti and barkas wouldn't be on our books, and in the past balde wouldn't have been able to sit on his bumper contract. You can't force players to do anything they don't want to.
     
  11. Lewis Kerr

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    It isn't about a lack of respect it's about being realistic.

    Ange is a great talker, and I do believe he is man of integrity, but he'll see Spurs as a life changing opportunity that will be too hard to turn down. I think it's idealistic to assume that he'll reject a genuine "Top 4" EPL side to stay in Scotland.

    Listen if he does get offered the job and rejects it I'll love the man more than I already do. But I expect to hear the "it was an opportunity too big to turn down" sound bites shortly after the Cup final.
     
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    He done that open goal interview yesterday and giving soundbites again its getting a wee bit too Rodgers-esque for me
     
  13. PaddyJamieson

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    Aye, he's definitely away.
     
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    Same - believe in the man not the media is my basic premise at present.

    Ange is going to Ange it regardless, let him get on with it. 5 year deal to stay incoming is my best guess to what he wants. But it might be 7 :39:

    Also, there is a treble on the cards so life is good, and I want to enjoy it.
     
  15. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    Exactly since bosman virtually all of the power has moved to the players. Folk on here continually go on about how big a * Pete was..... yet even he couldn't get Big Bobo to * off from his contract.
    (I still maintain had he played we would have lost fewer goals that season and won the * league. anyway rant over.)
     
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    I'm worried now. Never known you to complain about anything @Blochairnbhoy
     
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  17. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    Funny you say realistic then go on to say spurs are a top 4 epl team when they aren't.
     
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    Pretty sure he's been offered one and chose not to take it.
     
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    "I will do what I think is the most important thing in my role for the next four days, as I would in any other case, and that is to try and get the team to win the Scottish Cup"

    "Every move I’ve made is because I thought there was another good challenge, something that’s going to get me growth. I love a challenge"

    Aye he's gone isn't he :54:
     
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    Ange trolling everyone here and will end up staying ...

    and if not, go to Marseille, not Spuds!