Honest Mistakes Thread 2016/17 onwards.

Honestly don’t see much wrong with what was said.

‘the easiest way out of this, is if it’s offside’.

We don’t know the incident so let’s talk about the hypothetical. Imagine you’re the VAR ref.

ball over the top, close offside call. Play is allowed to continue and there is a shout for a penalty. It’s a tricky one and commentators are split on whether it should be awarded or not. Ref asks VAR if it’s a pen. VAR isn’t sure yet, hasn’t seen it from all angles and says

“the easiest way out of this is if it’s offside”

He’s stating a fact. If it’s offside, it’s an easy way out of making a tough decision on whether it’s a penalty or not. Offside is black or white. He didn’t say “the easiest way out of this is to just call it offside”

We’ve had plenty of reasons to be aggrieved at referreeing in this country over the years and over the course of this season with VAR. People getting their knickers in a twist over nothing with this one though imo.

 

Aye I tend to agree there's no big conspiracy here. I think it speaks more to the * refereeing and unwillingness to take responsibility and make a tough call, rather than a conscious attempt to write off a goal because of an agenda.

 

It’s not about what is the easiest way out it’s about making the right decision and btw if it’s still inconclusive on the pictures the the attackers is suppose to get Benefit of the doubt as the game is about scoring goals


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The fact that he said is if it’s offside proves something is a miss it’s the wording

If he said well it’s offside before hand so pen decision doesn’t matter


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What if they hadn’t checked the offside yet? Foul occurs and the first thing VAR ref says to the ref is “easiest way out of this is if it’s offside”. There’s * all wrong with it

 

They aren't looking for the easiest way out. They've to get to the correct decision.

It's standard practice for VAR to look for infringements prior to incidents. If the player was offside prior to a penalty incident then the correct decision would be to award offside. That's the correct decision, not the easiest way out.

It would be good to hear what was said in the context that it was used. The phrase "easiest way out" sounds like they want to avoid giving a decision.

 

Sorry it comes across as easiest thing to do here is say it was a offside


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Easiest thing to do? Sorry but it's either the correct call or not. No "easy way out"

That is clear bias or cheating. If it offside, its offside. If its a penalty call, they either believe its a penalty or not. If an offside happens before it then fine. See no easy way out. You call the correct call. More evidence something dodgy is going on.

 

You’re not looking at it objectively

 

Possibly. I'm not perfect either. Maybe the language they used was wrong? If it was offside it's offside. If its not it's not. What does "easy way out" even mean?

 

If it was such a non-issue, why would Walker used the language he did? 'I couldn't believe what I was hearing' etc, it's very obviously been controversial otherwise it wouldn't be a story.

 

VAR has meant to be definitive. Can't be hitting out with...aye that's easier or that'll do

 

He was a * disgrace the day , every tackle free kick huns

 

Stinking refereeing but no way Morelos's goal should have been ruled out. All the sweeter

 

Shambolic performance, * jumping twirling in the air before the tackles even come in.

I'd be raging if I was a hun, minimal contact for the Munchieboxmans goal. But in saying that most of their freekicks were soft as * SO EVENS ITSELF OOT EH. * them.

 

Just posted in the match thread about the morelos goal, i genuinely don’t think it’s gave for a push, first replay that they never showed again lol , clearly showed that the fat * had a hold of johnstones shirt, that’s what I think it was gave it for, Clancy was looking straight at it
Pull of the shirt in the box, free kick

 

It might have been a soft foul but let's face it the way decisions have gone since VAR came in we'd need a decision like that in every game til the end of the season for things to even out. It's the kind of decision they get all the time + the pens for, none against and the red cards to opposition etc etc etc.