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Cheating Bastards or an Anomaly (Celtic Penalty Stats Vs Other Teams)

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by ILoveTheCeltic, Oct 9, 2022.

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  1. seanm

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    If you could legally hide mics in the refs rooms youd hear some pretty anti Celtic stuff I bet you HH
     
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  2. ILoveTheCeltic

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    5 seasons (2018-19 to 2022-23) League penalties awarded v conceded net:

    Rangers = +28
    Hearts = +9
    Celtic = +8
    Kilmarnock = +7
    St Johnstone = +2
    Hibs = +1
    Aberdeen = -1
    Hamilton = -1
    Dutd = -3
    Livingston = -6
    Dundee = -9
    Motherwell = -10
    St Mirren = -12
    Ross County = -12

     
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  3. MJ9 Gold Member Gold Member

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    really good point. In rugby there’s no place for ambiguity. The conversation between ref and video ref is available for everyone to hear and explains why decisions are made. It would actually be better for the refs too, as there is a clear understanding of decisions taken. Even for the starfelt penalty, if that went to VAR, heard the chat and what the penalty is actually for, even if I didn’t agree, I would feel we weren’t just being cheated
     
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  4. Westlondonscot Gold Member Gold Member

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    That's something football as a whole needs to introduce, stop molly codling the refs. They then get other retired refs to go on TV or write for the dirt sheets about how said ref did a great job. They are never held responsible for their * ups.
     
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  5. McChiellini..

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    They're still yet to have a single decision go against them. Lol..

    Squeaky clean. These VAR shouts like ours are when pretty blatant and either yo equalise, or like the Hibs one when the were 2-1 up, to go further ahead. Both handballs in an unnatural position..

    Literally everything going their way. Against the sheep as well turning the body to block a shot with your arm. Again...when the game was tight. Penalty appeals for holding at County and St Johnstone. No given..

    Could go on and on..
     
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  6. Samurai Bhoy

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    It’s even crazier if you compare how long each team spends in possession in the opposing team’s box.
    I don’t know the statistics, but I’m sure we spend, by far, more time in the opposing team’s area than any other team, and we concede the least time in our own area, yet the contrast to our penalties given compared to conceding is exponentially different!

    It would be interesting to see the stats for possessions in opponent’s box vs penalties awarded ratio!
     
  7. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    I knew VAR wouldn't change much without a change of refereeing in this country, but surprised at how blatant its been thus far..
     
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  8. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    I backed having VAR, still do, because one way or the other it will cause a change in the bias. The more often we get cheated the more often its going to get highlighted, not just in Scotland but further afield and that is what will drive change. The only thing missing is the Club commenting on the decisions being made and highlighting similar decisions compared to ours..
     
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  9. BigDoggyWoofWoof

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    It's often difficult to distinguish between incompetence and malice. I don't doubt there's some covert freemasonesque shenanigans impacting decisions against us now and in the past but it's not every occasion. When Willie Collum - a practising Catholic - is the VAR official, something else is presumably going on.

    Either the refs collectively enforce a set of rules not appearing in the rulebook and that only they understand or a significant proportion of them are * at their jobs. I don't think we should underestimate the potential for a profession that effectively self-regulates to be crammed full of blithering halfwits, all with a vested interest in refusing any kind of critical oversight on their individual performances.
     
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  10. TheHappyLoss

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    If this was in England, Spain, France or Italy this would be questioned. Small league no one gives a * and those in charge are complicit.
     
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    Is that for real? Jesus Christ
     
  12. Sean Daleer Free Palestine Gold Member

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    Or you don't need to be a raving hun masonic *, but knowing the profession you are entering has unwritten rules and abiding by said unwritten rules will see you move up the ladder is all the incentive little worms like Golum needs.

    I worked in enough hun workplaces to know that it isn't openly spoken about but the implication is enough to make you aware how to get ahead.

    Probably why I never lasted long in their shithole workplaces.

    Hun employment does not require a written anti catholic test, just an understanding of what is required.
     
  13. Sean Daleer Free Palestine Gold Member

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    A pliable Catholic like Collum, easily manipulated and willing to make the hard choices, is just the type of token Tim a hun workplace is looking for. Sticks to the script but is happy to be the "token Tim" to prove the institution isn't biased.

    Absolute worst *.
     
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  14. JamesM09

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    For me, it’s pretty simple.

    We all know the institution/mason stuff, but we can simplify it to a language the whole world understands. Money.

    For example, a canteen conversation in the SFA might go ..

    “That’s rangers CEO admitting they are running on debt and loans like last time. Could be like 2012 again if they’re not careful. Maybe if they can get a wee league win they might be alright. That would be good for all of us. Don’t want another 2012 where we lost all that money. What a * hassle that was..”

    It’s as simple as that. Why do people think the Huns publicly announce their financial troubles? They’re dog whistling to the SFA that they need some success ASAP because they can’t balance the books.

    Imagine being the referee that cost the Huns the league/champions league qualification and saw them go into admin and come under UEFA scrutiny, and therefore put the SFA under scrutiny again.
     
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  15. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Funnily enough it's not it's even worse the guy used Transfermarkt which separates the 33 game season and the split so he never counted penalties after the split lol


    Rangers = +33
    Kilmarnock = +10
    Hearts = +9
    Celtic = +8
    St Johnstone = +2
    Hibs = +1
    Aberdeen = -1
    Hamilton = -1
    Dutd = -3
    Livingston = -6
    Dundee = -9
    Motherwell = -10
    St Mirren = -12
    Ross County = -12
     
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  16. Bonobhoy

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    Its * shocking....As much as our own club are shitebags at asking questions,so are all the others.
     
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    I'm sorry, there is trying your best to set up a style that helps try and win pens, but there is no way in * it would that successful and cause such a huge gap between them and the rest of the league over 5 years, naturally.

    No way...that's * bent and plainly obvious.

    Now I'm just pulling out numbers from thin air but a net of 33 pens in their favour over 5 seasons is a total of 99 points if each goal was one that changes a result and could be viewed as a winning goal.

    Now not all of them will be, so I'd bet its probably more along the lines of between 60 to 70 points extra they've earned over that time in 5 seasons whereas the most we could have ever got would only be 24 points if each pen was an undeniable winning goal. Our reality is we've probably managed about 15 points from those 8.

    They've done anywhere between 12 points extra a season (60 points over 5 season total) to 14 points extra a season (70 points over 5 season total)

    We've done anywhere between of 2 points extra a season (10 points over 5 season total) 3 points extra a season (15 points over 5 season total).

    I * detest this league and domestic game and genuinely it makes it * difficult to continue following football the longer it goes on
     
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    Really couldn’t make it up that they’d be the top three clubs :fear:

    Imagine actually having to explain to a foreign football fan that Kilmarnock get more penalties than Celtic ffs :56:
     
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  19. richie87 Gold Member Gold Member

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    There has always been a disparity with refs since the beginning, unfortunately they need to level the playing field with us and they can’t do it on the field themselves so this is how they do it. If the Huns bust again it will be for good and the SFA don’t want that they are their second biggest asset, so help us on hand in the shape of refs and now VAR

    any team who dominate games the way we do and attack they way we do would obviously be the top of any penalty for chart and bottom of any against the fact we are miles behind or leading the against just reiterates the level of officials denying us

    CHEATING
     
  20. BigDoggyWoofWoof

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    I dunno, he's made a lot of poor decisions outside of games involving the OF as well. I take your point regarding tokenism and 'playing the game' but I've seen him give a reading at mass, I can't really see him knowingly participating in some anti-Catholic cabal. I could be wrong, my take is that he's just a * ref.

    Like I said, sometimes it will be incompetence, other times I agree it's hun cheating. Those numbers quoted above don't lie, there's something afoot and we've all known it for years.