Honest Mistakes Thread 2016/17 onwards.

Nah they go review it and then say they’re happy with it. It rarely happens when they go to the monitor though.

 

Nicholson will be making the SFA aware of our concerns here. We went to them in November to ask for an explanation into the farce around the camera angle for Jota's disallowed goal. We did the same with the hearts handball and I'm sure we'll will do the same with this.

There is no consistency whatsoever and you can guarantee that we will have a pen given against us for the exact same thing in the very near future.

 

Nah I’m right. But I’m done talking about it now.

 

It has been consistent.

Hit a players hand anywhere in the box and it's a penalty.

Hit a Rangers players hand in box and it's not a penalty.

 

https://thecelticstar.com/var-gate-celtic-set-for-second-meeting-with-sfa-over-var-concerns/


The Celtic Star this afternoon can confirm that Celtic have already met with the Scottish FA seeking clarity around the rules and the application of VAR that has been, if nothing else, entirely consistent in ensuring that every possible decision goes against the Scottish Champions and runaway Scottish Premiership leaders who after yesterday’s 2-2 draw at Ibrox remain nine points clear at the top of the league looking down on theRangers.



In fact it’s remarkable that yesterday was the first occasion where Celtic have actually dropped points since VAR was introduced in October at Celtic’s 4-3 win away to Hearts in a match where James Forrest was denied a stonewall penalty after Hearts had been awarded two. Had John Beaton been asked by yesterday’s VAR operator Willie Collum to take another look at the Connor Goldson handball then Celtic could well have left Ibrox with all three points.



This site also understands that the view from inside the club is that John Beaton had a fairly decent game yesterday but there is real concern surrounding the application of the rules by Willie Collum who failed at both penalty incidents to get the referee to take a second look via the VAR monitor. The real unhappiness though centres on the Goldson handball, especially after some the handball decisions that have been reached awarding Dundee United and Ross County incredibly soft penalty kicks at Celtic Park after incidents involving Alexandro Bernabei and Matt O’Riley.




Subsequently gaslighting by the mainstream media today to try to justify Collum’s decisions will not be allowed to muddy the water as the decision was for Beaton to make and not Collum as a second referee.




Now after yesterday’s controversial decisions taken by Willie Collum, Celtic will have a further meeting with the Scottish FA which is expected to be frank and forthright and focus on Collum’s decision-making that effectively denied Celtic the opportunity of what the club believe to have been a stonewall penalty kick.

Yesterday’s opponents remain the ONLY side in the Scottish Premiership yet to concede a penalty kick this season.

It’s worth remembering that when Willie Collum sent off a Rangers player against St Mirren a few years ago the latest Ibrox club launched a campaign against Collum who subsequently did not handle any of their games for many months.

 

Why does the club continue to be so quiet on this as we have been shafted every week since its inception. It's not as if it's touch and go, it's glaringly obvious for all.

 

I thought the Starfelt one was a penalty to be fair. Or at least there wasn’t enough to overturn it. He gave him a decision to make by sliding in so recklessly.

The handball was blatant. I see the BBC had Stuart Dougal and Richard Foster (two hun * - quelle surprise) on saying that they couldn’t really have given it because it wasn’t clear that it touched Goldson’s hand. Not only was it crystal clear - it touched both of them. Might as well have been playing volleyball.

 

That maybe so but their is a monitor their for him to review he chose not to do that and he didn’t see the incident properly so begs the question why didn’t he go to the monitor also collum seems to be taking the fall here but if he says to Beaton he takes upto you you can go to monitor if you want and Beaton chooses not to then their not much we can do total stitch up


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Can anyone clarify if Tav was given a foul for the clash of heads?
Because it was 100% a corner of not.

 

Releasing a public statement etc will only result in us being charge with bringing the game into disrepute. That doesn’t mean for a second though that we’re not taking action through the “proper” channels.

I did find it strange that there was no mention of the debatable incidents in post game interviews though. I wonder if Celtic/Ange had already said he wouldn’t go into that so not to ask.

For what it’s worth, I thought both penalty incidents were penalties. The Huns one would never be overturned by VAR as there is contact, even if it’s soft. The frustration though is that we likely wouldn’t have been given it in the moment and VAR still wouldn’t have intervened. The handball is absolutely unforgivable though.

Yes, a free kick was given and rightfully so to be fair. No intent, but a blatant free kick.

 

You know it's just occured to me that it may have been Wullie Collum who gave Kirk Broadfoot a pen at CP when he wasn't even looking

 

So if Maeda ended up with a * nose it would be a penalty?
Too guys going for a areal challenge resulting in a clash of heads isn't a free kick IMO.
Maybe I'm looking through tinted glasses here but I couldn't see any foul being committed there.

 

I've just bundled both into one, neither Beaton and his officials, or Golum and his VAR team covered themselves in glory. It was a despicable showing all around, VAR is one thing you have to also remember there is still 2 linesmen and a forth official to look for infringements. I've thought this for a long time that Golum is the head honcho within the referees, Beaton saying 'its no up to me' confirmed that, overruled at the highest level.

 

Tavernier won the header, Maeda arrived late and (for want of a better expression) stuck the nut in him. If Maeda had won the header and Tavernier had caught him late, I’d have been screaming for a penalty.

We wouldn’t have got it mind.

 

Aw the pish fae idiots on here having a dig a starfelt for throwing himself into a reckless dive at a tackle
Are yous all idiots
1. starfelt made no attempt to tackle him
2. He slid in to block a shot/cross
3. So ccv was reckless but got away with it because he did the same to stop Tillman scoring

 

We can’t really do it publicly, if we do it comes with sanctions, possibly even up to point deductions, stadium closures etc

 

CCV made contact with the ball, Starfelt didn’t. That’s the major difference. I’m not blaming Starfelt to be fair, I think pretty much every defender would have slid in. He just got done by Sakala who chopped back inside.

 

The difference between the two incidents is that CCV was forced to throw himself at the ball as a last ditch tackle. In Starfelt’s case, Sakala was going away from goal and there was no need to over commit.

 

And why is it ALWAYS Gollum/Beaton/Dallas/Mclean in the VAR box or Main refs for near all of our games....

Yesterday for 3 of the other live games there were near unknown names in the Var box.

Where are these guys? Why dont they circulate around us....If these * like Beaton/Mclean/Gollum etc have constant issues and problems why are they not demoted or at the very least removed from anything to do with our games. There are plenty of refs out there and they surely cant be any worse than these tossers.

 

Why has this topic resulted in too many posters having to resort to insults?

I think everyone has seen that Starfelt was planning to block a shot.

CCV blocking Tillman's shot is nothing like the Starfelt incident. CCV blocked the ball and didn't make any contact with Tillman. I don't know how you can begin to compare them.