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Neil Lennon

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by romeo9535, Apr 17, 2016.

Discuss Neil Lennon in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. McChiellini..

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    The manager got it wrong on the night and threw the players under the bus..

    There isn't one instance I can think of where that's turned out well and everyone remains. Player power, rightly or wrongly, is as big as ever and he should've been removed..

    The whole thing was toxic. He should've been gone that night. We basically never recovered and it last almost a whole season..
     
  2. Pogues

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    Aye I remember Lennon criticising players for basically chucking it, he was clearly frustrated after a pish poor performance. It was a real sign that things weren't right behind the scenes.

    I agree with you on player power and public criticism from the manager rarely ends well. But I have some sympathy with lennon. When you see some players, and arguably your best player, downing tools and not giving a * (and not just that game) I can see how that would frustrate him.
     
  3. McChiellini..

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    Be frustrated....but he should've held his tongue publicly..

    It * us. That was what he had to work with and he rinsed them for the world to see, after failing to get us through a tie we should've got through..
     
  4. Pogues

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    In hindsight, yes he should have kept it in house. But he's probably seeing things going on behind the scenes with some players that he's struggling to do anything about.

    It depends who you blame more. Lennon or the want away players.
     
  5. Ryanm1984

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    Was 100% his fault. Don't believe for a second the 3 or 4 players in question 9nky decided that night they wanted away. He had a transfer window that wrnt into October and he decided to have a go at the players only a week or 2 before window was due to close.
    He should have been better prepared in the summer and got them out and replaced with players who had the hunger to go and win the league.

    Although in saying that if he had done he'd probably have won the league and he'd still be here and we'd still be watching his awful football
     
  6. Dannybhoy81

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    Must be both surely but if players don't perform usually the manager is the one who takes the fall
     
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    When he took over we largely carried on the momentum we built under rodgers, but once covid lockdown hit the reset button and he had to start from scratch getting the players back up to match sharpness and working as a unit, we looked like a completely different team, there were even people on here saying guys like McGregor weren't good enough by the end of the season (he's never a captain, ha) we looked that directionless, when a team of objectively good players look that far off it does come down to the manager.

    He's a dinosaur in the modern football terms, doesn't give a * about the basics like diet and fitness, or analysing games.

    But even then not winning the ten, people would get over that eventually, the same as previous managers that have * it on the pitch but we'd still welcome them back with open arms if they turned up in the stadium to watch a game, what we don't get past is his arrogant attitude, throwing players under the bus, having digs at fans, losing is always everyone elses fault and everything going against him, he will never admit any of it is on him, his ego just won't allow it.
     
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  8. Pogues

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    See in hindsight mate, you're right. He should have sold them and replaced them with the same standard or better but there's never any guarantees with new players. And, what would have been the fans reaction selling Edouard, Christie, Ncham and Ajer at the start of the 10 season.

    Aye, we might have won the 10 but we wouldn't have ange now. All ifs and buts but it's the level of hatred towards lennon by some I cannae get my head round. Some have short memories.
     
  9. AdamRS Gold Member Gold Member

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    If we sold Edouard ect fans would of blamed that for losing the 10 i can guarantee you that. It was the right call to keep them as it highlighted who really cost us the 10
     
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    That's a managers job..

    Manage the players. Don't play any that aren't trying. Get rid. Get guys in who want to be here..

    Standard stuff. He * us up majorly all that season. Stopped even trying to get us to defend set pieces properly at one point when we lost at Dingwall later in the season..
     
  11. Dannybhoy81

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    Not sure how true it is but did Lennon not say he wanted to sell Eddy etc as they didn't want to be here but the board overruled?
     
  12. JML67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    see for me, genuinely grateful the fact that season went to * as if it didn't we wouldn't have Ange.

    No pain no gain and all that :ange:
     
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    I call the ones who blame it solely on Lennon thick *. Not everyone or not even those who know he should have done things differently. Just those thst blame it all on him.

    You can't compare him and Ange. Two totally different seasons.

    Your deluded if you think there wasn't an agenda against us ffs. Stevie wonder could see this ffs
     
  14. horseshoe

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    No you can't compare Lennon and Ange, Lennon inherited a strong treble winning squad and * it, while Ange inherited the shambles Lennon left behind and turned a losing squad into champions instantly, when we were all accepting it might take a year or two to rebuild.
     
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    I worded it wrong..you can't compare a covid lock down season to Anges season. Plus ange have a new team. Not all Lenny's players played and win the league for ange. You can't compare this. The whole dynamic of the club changed after losing thst league.

    Some saying there was no agenda against us. Fs you just have to look at var this season to still see it's happening against us and for the Huns yet there's folk on here saying in the covid season there was no agenda. Just bonkers anyone who thinks this.

    And listen, I'm not fully backing Lennon. I do understand he did things wrong and was arragent. Some of that is what made him a winner for us and we knew whst he was like so ya have to take the rough with the smooth. Whst I won't do is talk about someone in the way he has been who represented our club very well both as a player and manager. * disgusting the way he's been talked about all over social media. I was * gutted we lost thst 10. It was actually like a death in the family. Thsts how bad it affected me when it happened. I was * depressed for weeks leading up to it and when it eventually happened. It was painful but I still wouldn't lower myself to pin it all on Lennon's door. Want away players downing tools. Hun Media, Hun refs, the pens them * got and not against them the extra minutes played on for them to get a winner, government, covid testers in loyalist east Belfast. The league making us play so many games in such short space of time plus near full team out, The list goes on ffs.

    It's time people got of his back. Draw a line and move on from the * getting thrown at him. We're better than what's happening now. Well I thought we where anyway! I wish the man nothing but good luck and good health moving on with his life. He's been through an awful lot, and carrying losing the ten is hard enough on his shoulders and bad enough without our/his own turning on him.
     
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  16. Pogues

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    As manager, lennon carrys the can, no doubt about it. But surely when players stop trying, and I'm talking about edouard in particular, possibly our best player, there has to be some blame there.

    Your last paragraph there is nonsense mate. You think lennon told his players not to defend set pieces properly. Mon tae *.
     
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    Baffles me that people are still thick enough to still rate this imposter. Look at his track record outside of Celtic, was that covids fault aswell.

    A guy that openly says he doesn’t get involved with tactics
     
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    It wasn't word for word but he said something along the lines of giving up trying to get us to defend set pieces. His post match has been posted in here im sure. Was a sky one..

    First I've heard that..
     
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    Tried googling it couldn't find it, I'm sure he said it after he left but maybe not
     
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    Neil Lennon is a honking manager.