Peter Lawwell

I’m surprised at that.

 

If Strachan gets the credit when we do well, why does the blame switch to Lawwell when we fail in Europe?

 

Simple fact is that celtic have stood still since lawell took over and now that it finally feels like we're moving forward here he comes to keep us in his little safe zone of domestic bliss and european failure

 

Not really this either, when he took over in 2003 until resignation in 2021 we won:

13 League Titles
9 Scottish Cups
7 League Cups


Got into the Last 16 three times in that period as well. 18 years, 29 trophies. Through recessions and pandemics.

He was very successful and that’s why he has his positives of course. The problem was the * an egomaniac, and never wanted to push us on to be the best we could possibly be.

 

Yes you’re right in mental circumstances where Psg lost their league, juve lost their league, liverpool went from champions to disaster of a season. List goes on.

We also got to last 16 of Europe 3 times, some really special nights at Celtic park against very strong opposition.

“Think it was Desmond’s decision” aye! Of course, it must have been. Everything that went right with Celtic was nothing to do with Lawwell at all. Give me peace man honestly

Every club has wee blips. Ups and downs, we don’t have the right to win the league EVERY year. Granted we should be 9/10 at least.


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To push us on to where we, as supporters, want to be would mean spending big. Left to us we'd probably bankrupt the club in the space of a few year, and that's probably true of every clubs supporters.
To be fair to lawwell, he knows the figures and spends the amount of money he thinks we can without putting the club in jeopardy. He's been pretty good at keeping the club financially strong imo.

 

How are we moving forward! I see no difference than other years we've been doing well. Infact, we were humped in the CL this year. Did we not do better when he was here.

Again, I'm not one for supporting him but I'm not that simple to make things up like like we're moving forward. I really can't see how you think we've stood still while he was here and comparing it to now as if we're this team that's doing great things. To Put it t into perspective, yes we're playing great football but we've done better while he was with us plus he played a part with getting Ange here. That deserves huge credit


I think people like you just like to point the finger and find faults where there is none.

 

I would have said it was more Strachan’s doing considering the players he had at his disposal. Lawwell deserves credit for bringing Strachan in though, I’d agree there.

 

Oh and Lawwell was the reason we got Ange.


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The point still stands though, we finished 25 points behind a team that was less than 10 years old.

We had some amazing nights at Celtic Park, I would never say otherwise. I’d give up a ducking lot to experience another one, because the longer he was in charge, they special nights became a distant memory, and defeats against bang average sides turned into the norm. As I said, he turned us into European cannon fodder with his downsizing.

Rodgers coming in I would say was down to Desmond. If it was Lawwell it was completely out of character. Deila and Lennon twice over were more his style, even though I did agree with bringing in Lennon the first time. The second time was just an outrageous decision and ultimately one that probably cost us 10 in a row.

 

So he got 2 manager decisions wrong in his time at Celtic is what you’ve just said. WGS, Lennon first time, Rodgers and Ange all good decisions, correct?

So my point still stands, not everything he did was perfect but did a lot of good too.


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Or, as I said earlier. Save the old firm.

Peter Lawal is a commercialy minded *.

 

Aye in terms of bringing managers in that’s the ones I’d say he got right. Although I still don’t think it was his call to bring in Rodgers. Let’s look at what happened with the managers when they were in charge though.

Strachan left after losing the league, a major factor being we brought in Flood and not Fletcher. It was the right time to go when he did though as losing the league combined with the style of play is unacceptable.

Lennon left after not being properly backed first time round, despite reaching the last 16 and group stages.

The beginning of the end with Rodgers was not bringing in McGinn. Even if Rodgers would have left anyway, that decision not to find a few hundred thousand was horrendous from a business point of view. Brown’s replacement staring us straight in the face, and for peanuts, yet we still * about and missed out.

All this after Deila. Another who wasn’t backed whatsoever. Beaten by Maribor in a game worth roughly £30m, and a big reason was we had brought in only 1 player at that point. A loan for Berget.

 

so you’re basing us losing the league that year from not signing Fletcher? I don’t think so. Granted we needed a good striker but fletcher was never ever the answer.

I agree not getting Mcginn was a complete disaster. One of his major mistakes. Only thing being hed of * off down south in a couple years anyway most likely.

But come on, we’ve spent a lot of money, sadly we can’t even afford the 15 mill+ players as wages too much.

only manabger not backed proper was deila imo

 

Fletcher would have given us a far better chance of winning the league than bringing in Willo Flood, that’s for sure.

We have not spent a lot of money, not when you look at nett spend for transfers. I’ve never once said about 15 million pound players. However, I don’t think expecting to go into qualifiers with a helluva lot of money at stake prepared in terms of playing staff is too much to ask. It might have avoided some of the disasters we have had. This year is the first in a long time I can remember being ready to start a campaign. It’s not a coincidence Lawwell had stepped down in my opinion.

 

Maybe as I said before something to do with already being guaranteed the CL and having someone with unreal knowledge on a market full of unearthed gems you can get on the cheap…


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The flip side of that though mate is spending big for the qualifiers and still get put out could gub us financially. It's a balancing act and we as supporters would always back the spend big option. As the CEO Lawwells got to look after the finances of the club so I can understand how he operated.
It's a fair point that the guaranteed CL money makes a difference this year.

 

I don’t think anyone is under the illusion we could spend massively to try and get into the Champions League. You simply cannot go into these games like we have done previously though. * Nir Bitton at centre half? Absolutely no excuses for that type of nonsense. Especially when the price money should we get through is astronomical. It’s not a case of spend money and go bust or don’t spend at all.

 

Still have a lot more to do in europe to suggest we have made any real inroads

 

Constantly under prepared going into qualifiers. Something so basic that we never learned from until the arrival of Ange.