Peter Lawwell

Well we can’t? So he should just have far less wages purely because our players get paid far less from the players down south? Mate that’s just ridiculous.

He has a far harder job than ceos down south for that simple reason.

There’s a reason Arsenal kept calling for him.


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He oversaw the most successful domestic period as we were competing against Aberdeen and Motherwell for a lot of it, and then a huns team consisting of utter *. Whilst turning us into European cannon fodder.

 

A harder job that CEO’s down South . * stone me.

 

There’s a reason why he turned Arsenal down as well. Think about it.

 

His family didn't want to move?

 

Step backwards.

 

No, because the salary wasn’t actually that different and Arsenal fans would’ve hounded him out years before Celtic fans ever did.

 

A harder job than CEO’s down south?

 

We were doing very well without him. Hopefully doesnt have a negative impact. A bit concerned about what kind of relationship he might have with Ange.

 

Harder in the sense of Europe. Of course it is, we don’t have the money.

thought that was pretty obvious I meant Europe but obv not for some…

 

No, you said he had an easier job than CEO’s down South. That means in general. That much is obvious. Now you are backtracking and trying to say you meant Europe only. The fact is, for a lot of his time in charge, all he had to do was have us better than Aberdeen and Motherwell to win league titles. Which he did.

In Europe, we had plenty disasters during his time in charge, and a big reason behind that was that we went into qualifiers totally unprepared. We were embarrassed on many occasions. So for his £1m salary, he had us winning against dross domestically, but failing against teams at roughly our level more often than not.

Off the park he had to balance the books after O’Neill, that I fully accept, which he did. Once he got that sorted though, he had no clue how to actually take us forward. So we ended up falling off a cliff when it came to European football.

 

On the flip side, we were also better in Europe under his tenure than any time since Stein, qualifying through to the latter stages of the Champions League 3 times and getting European football of some sort year after year, and being there after Christmas more than any other board member has oversaw.

You’re not wrong at all, but that above is also true.

The big massive problem with him lies in that, he wasn’t one for pushing us on to be the best we could be, he’s a ‘good enough’ guy.

As well as we done under his tenure, we could have been much better.

 

You are right. Strachan was the main reason on two of they occasions however. He had absolutely no right to be there given the team he was working with in my opinion. To reach the last 16 with a back four consisting of Telfer, McManus, Caldwell and Naylor is nothing short of a miracle.

Then when Lennon achieved it he wasn’t given money to go further and in the end left because of it. Rodgers got us to the group stages twice and we still couldn’t find the couple of hundred thousand to buy McGinn, and we went into the AEK game having brought in nobody to strengthen the first team and paid the price.

 

Strachan was Lawwell’s choice, and was backed heavily as well, he spent more money than MON. That’s probably the period where he done it right the most, brought in full scale Dutch Internationalists. Trusted the managers opinion and didn’t try to overrule him, provided backing whilst balancing the books majorly. We reaped the rewards for it.

Last part nails it perfectly, it was like he always was in charge of us laying a foundation to kick on, and then going back to the drawing board…

 

He spent more in terms of transfers. It would be interesting to see how the figures would stack up if you take wages into account also however, as we got a lot of players on hefty wages off the books.

In the end though, it ended in tears with Strachan. Not bringing in Fletcher and going for Willo Flood was a major part in losing the league in his final season. The football under Strachan was dire for the most part though, there’s no getting away from that. Very good manager who knew how to get results which is above anything for me, but it was tough on the eye.

 

Nah just showing your lack of intelligence mate


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He says after debating no points I made .

Harder jobs than CEO’s down South .

 

Mate your non stop. You’ve blatantly just rubbished absolutely every achievement I’ve said about lawwell. You can’t even be happy with the fact we got a quadruple treble under his watch. I’ve been debating everything you’ve said previously but after trying to tell me what I meant I can’t be bothered anymore because I know what I meant, of course it’s easy domestically.

What exactly do you want Celtic to be achieving? Because I can tell you that what we done under his watch is probably the best we can realistically hope for. Some seasons now and again we will over achieve (hopefully) in Europe.

As I said it wasn’t perfect but to say he shouldn’t be anywhere near our club after running it brilliantly as a business sense is madness. His experience will be brilliant to have.


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By the end of WGS time the wage bill was higher than MON’s as well mate.

 

His running of the club was not brilliant. He had domestic silverware handed to him for the most part. I was over the moon with the trophies domestically though, and I wouldn’t have expected to win as much if I’m honest, as cup upsets are something that will happen. They did plenty times prior to Rodgers. I’m still not convinced it was Lawwell that brought in Rodgers however, I think that was a Desmond decision.

Were you happy going from European finalists to European no marks come the end of his tenure though? Were you happy with him appointing Lennon after the SC final? The huns died and 9 years later finished 25 points ahead of us. Albeit in mental circumstances, but that was simply unacceptable.

He held us back when he was calling the shots. When we qualified for CL, managers were not properly backed and it didn’t let us kick on, which we should have been doing. He was constantly looking to downsize us, and it caught up with us.

Then we could talk about his complete contempt for a section of our support.