Ange Postecoglou

I'm not enjoying the recent chat from Ange about players moving on. It's like he knows there will be exits and is letting us down easy

 

If mooy goes it will be a positive move by the club.

 

Think most supporters know some players will leave the club it happens and hopefully we get good money for them and any money we get we get new and better quality players in .

 

We held off from pretty clear, obvious interest in the summer to keep what we had. It was always gonna happen soon..

As I said elsewhere, I've every faith we'll improve on what we have moving forward..

If we were to sell Juranovic and O'Riley for 35 mill and bring 4 quality players in for 20....that's the kinda model we want to be operating at..

 

In light of the unceremonious exit from Europe, it's obvious we need to keep our best players, and get in others like them. If Ange insists on his tactics.

 

Selling our best players in just what we have to do as a club. We continuously make decent profits on players and usually manage to get as good if not better in for much less. Doesn’t work all the time but I have every faith we can do it under Ange, our signings have been a huge success rate last 2 seasons. I will struggle to see how we could replace Hatate though, hopefully he’s in for a bit longer and gives us more time. The best of him is still yet to come with us.

Jota
O’Riley
Hatate
CCV
JJ

Will all move for very decent fees. This could set us up financially very well along with European money to invest heavily into the playing squad. I’m actually starting to believe for the first time that we might genuinely be doing something to get us back on the map in Europe. Might take a few years but that’s fine it’s takes time. I would love to see us in a model of selling players for £25m+ consistently over the next while and buying some quality players at for £15m that will really take us up a level. I think we can do that. There will also be some gems to come from Japan in the future too that will be under £5m. Also another Oriley type from the LLs that we can get our hands on before anyone else. Exciting times.

My only fear is we lose Ange and we revert to some sort of Yes/Celtic man and the board stand still again.

 

Genuinely believe that them 5 players could net us somewhere in the region of £100m.

Now, imagine giving Ange £70m to spend on 7 positions. That’s the sort of model I would love to see. £100m out the door, £30m in the bank, £70m on transfers and continuous champions league participation makes something like that incredibly possible. If you have a guarantee of champions league money every year and you are still selling £40m worth of talent a season, why can’t we blow £40m on 4 or 5 players to really push us on?

 

I've got zero concerns about squad overhaul. For once we have a manager who is committed to establishing a club model rather than a one off brilliant squad. This is the difference between flash in the pan seasons and consistent improvement/achievement with the same playing style throughout squad cycles.

 

Maybe I've still got PTSD from the past 10 years of following Celtic's transfer market activities but I'm still extremely hesitant about cashing in on our star players particularly at this juncture - the group have only been together for just over a season, your O,'Rileys, Hatates etc are so young. Defo an argument for selling further down the road but we need the balance right. Makes no sense to me to sell anyone in January, quality out the door with no guarantees of even like-for-like replacement.

Yes Ange's transfer activity has been good but there is no guarantees going forward. Most managers make good signings when they're first in the door. Lenny signing Hooper, Izzy, Lesley etc. I hope to * Ange has more up his sleeve but to sell our best prospects so early just isn't right. Especially with this Tory board.

 

Only players I really fear losing this summer are Jota and CCV. So I hope we can hold onto them for another season at least.

I like O'Riley and see his potential but I don't think he's irreplaceable. Juranovic as well for that matter. Kyogo and Giakoumakis' goals are invaluable domestically but in Europe they've shown that they probably aren't clinical enough when the level goes up. That isn't to say I want them sold, but I don't doubt there's better out there. I can see Giakoumakis moving on in the summer as well if I'm honest.

You can also add Hatate to the list of players I'd want to keep for a while longer. His potential is massive and didn't look out of place in Europe at all for me.

We need to be careful though. Ange's first two transfer windows were marvellous but our summer acquisitions haven't really made an impact. Haksa and Bernabei show promise but the rest have been poor. We've not improved the starting eleven, so any transfers we do make in the future need to do just that or we run the risk of stagnation/regression.

 

For what money, though? I mean, yes, M. Dembele would be ideal, but... We can't afford to sell GG.

 

Giakoumakis has made it clear that his main ambition is to play in the Premier League. He's what, 27/28? Time is running out for that. He also predominantly plays second fiddle to Kyogo when he should really be getting more minutes. As much as I love Kyogo he hasn't hit the same heights this season but appears to be Ange's blue-eyed boy.

If you're Giakoumakis and a newly promoted or lower Premier League club wants you in the summer, do you move to fulfil your dream or do you stay at Celtic knowing that you'll start half of the time but also continue warming the bench against your Livingston's, St Mirren's etc.

I reckon he jumps at the chance unless he no longer cares about moving to the EPL and I reckon we'd happily sell for £10-£12 mil.

 

I actually love that answer from ange, sell aggressive buy aggressive, short periods between turn over of players etc because its to me the best way to battle against one of the worst things to happen to a team which is stagnation.
I still think he will want to hold on to our absolute best players for abit longer than others ie jota, ccv, hatate maybe kyogo etc but the likes of o'riley, jura, abada etc can all be sold for a nice profit and replaced with better maybe more expensive players therefore raising the ceiling of the team bit by bit every year.

 

If we can genuinely achieve a Scottish equivalent to an Ajax model, we could be doing very well for ourselves.

Bordering EPL could mean they spend more on our players in the long run as the transition may be easier for players all at the same time we start getting higher fees for players

 

Newly promoted or lower league English club...surely he could do better than that. He's looked decent in CL. And regarding his age- it's never late. Mehdi Taremi of Porto is having the time of his life at 30.

I mean, yes, warming the bench half the time sucks. If he goes, he goes. I just hope Aston Villa and the likes aren't his goal.

 

GG was signed for peanuts. In the same season we signed Kyogo, Abada, Hatate, O'Riley, Juranovic, Jota, CCV and Starfelt, all of who have become key contributors and most of whom are worth more now than when we signed them. Based on this track record, I'd give Ange the benefit of the doubt when it comes to being able to spot talent.

 

It's not about resale value. It's about how much a player better than Giakoumakis might cost us. CL goalscoring doesn't come cheap.

 

That's the reality of the league we play in and our standing in world football.

Clubs like Ajax and Benfica - the clubs we should be trying to emulate - have a large turnover of players. Every year they'll sell one or two players for huge money and reinvest.

It's the way to go.

 

It sure won't be easy, but we need to get out there and start broadening our scouting networks.

Suppose that's the tricky thing for a club like Celtic and where we currently stand, but in the end whether Ange is still here by then or not...it we get things in place, then within 5 years we could he seeing European games to a relative level we felt when guys MON and WGS were here

 

I fear that any player sales will just represent a continuation of the asset-stripping Tory policies of recent times in the name of "long term financial health" despite the fact we paid off all our debts over 10 years ago.

At the very least get a solid 2-3 seasons out of the talent on the pitch. The Dembeles, Van Dijks etc are rare, wouldn't be the end of the world forstalling big money sales in the name of on the pitch success. There needs to be a balance. At the moment we take deals too soon, our star players need to stay longer otherwise we will just be a revolving door