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Ange Postecoglou

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Mr. Slippyfist, May 29, 2021.

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  1. Turd Ferguson Gold Member Gold Member

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    No, he's mince.
     
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  2. Raoul Duke

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    Agreed. Only the front players seem to be pressing with the midfield and the defence standing about doin nothing other than leaving massive gaps inbetween the lines.
     
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  3. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    We're not playing well at all, though. Not scoring anywhere near enough and ropey as * at the back.

    Scored 4 and conceded 4 in our last 3 league games, against Motherwell, St Johnstone and St Mirren. Let's be honest - that's woeful. We were * yesterday and got away with it. Needed a red card against Motherwell at home to prevent what could have been a 2-2. And lost 2-0 at St Mirren.

    We are playing badly.
     
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  4. Hammy89 Gold Member Gold Member

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    We'll go through this several times a season. As long as we pick up three points, that's all that matters.

    Performances will pick up.
     
  5. littlekennie

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    It means if he’s identified our problems early surely he’s doing something about it ?


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    Agree. Also the wingers are too wide too often, and need to be working in the channels which gives more potential to cut in and to also have more shots at goal.
     
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    \Must say Bernabei's cross to GG was a peach - perfect pass.
     
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    "After training maybe we need to do some extra practice on shooting and finishing. No matter who we face, we know we are going to make chances but we should be making this game three - nil and seeing it out comfortably. We have to be clinical, especially in the Champions League that's why I say we need to stay back in training. All of us. So when we do make our chances, we are going to score a lot more." - Sead Haksabanovic.


    Shocked this has come from a player and not manager

    Why wait until after training why is it not in the program


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    The problem isn’t lack of practice in training mate. Professional players don’t miss sitters because they haven’t practiced enough that week.

    It’s a mentality problem right now which is fast developing into a confidence problem. That why the winner at St Johnstone was so crucial.

    The idea of staying back in training isn’t about the actual practice, it’s about the mentality and attitude of working into your own time to resolve the issue.
     
  12. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    I'd say Mooy at this stage of his career isn't good enough to be a starter for us, but he's been brought in for squad depth and he's been useful in that way so far. I'm hoping he shows a bit more over the course of the season of course.
     
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    A mentality problem is much harder to solve than a problem of practice. If Celtic collectively can't cope with the pressure of good chances, then either a team of psychologists is needed, or new players.
     
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    I thought that too
     
  16. RalstonFanClubPresident

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    Or just time. We're a young and exceptionally inexperienced team. How many games of professional football have guys like Hatate, Abada and O'Riley even played, let alone in Europe? Even guys like Jota, Juranovic, CCV, GG etc. are taking their first steps at this level.

    Compare that to Leipzig, a side full of £20 million plus players, most of whom have been with them for several years, playing European football each season.

    So of course it's crucial that we take the good chances we're creating, but like Ange said, he doesn't have a magic wand. Our players will have to learn and improve from the experience.
     
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    I’m not being funny but last season when the Huns beat them, they where a * team. Now they are a team of 20m players.

    Granted they had a * manager but i’m fed up of passing the buck.
     
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    It’s definitely mentality but I think the group will get through it.
     
  19. RalstonFanClubPresident

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    Them being a team of 20m players is a fact. They have numerous players who cost around that. In 2020 or 2021 alone (can't remember which) they bought a half dozen of them.

    Anybody can beat anybody in a one off game, but usually things like quality of player matters, and Leipzig are way ahead of us in that respect.

    Also, * the Huns. How are they doing in the Champion's League this season? 3 pumpings, not a single goal scored and barely ventured out of their own half against Liverpool. I'll take a brave defeat to Real over that gutless shower of * any day.
     
  20. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    Celtic manager Ange Postecoglou and club require statement European win - why little discussed home dynamic could help achieve that
    Celtic have produced generous dollops of enchanting, energised and enterprising football across the 17 European games presided over by Ange Postecoglou.




    The Australian’s overall record might be patchy – with serious dunts and serious disappointments – but there have been some fine victories. Never, though, a genuine statement win … a night when a big shot from one of the top five leagues are sent away with tail between legs. These don’t come along often for Celtic in cross-border competition, to be honest, and are becoming increasing rare. Indeed, the last such success was all of three years ago, in the Europa League. That took the form of Neil Lennon’s side thrillingly edging out Lazio 2-1 in Rome. To not only snare the club a first competitive win on Italian soil but secure the top spot in a continental group as had previously proved beyond them.

    Celtic welcoming RB Leipzig to their backyard for Tuesday’s Champions League assignment provides Postecoglou with the opportunity to carve out his own niche in the club’s cross-border jousting. It was put to him that a victory would be of no little significance when Celtic are without a home win at the most exalted level of European competition since a 2-1 success over Ajax all of nine years ago. He mockingly recoiled at being informed of that grim stat, and petitioned that the absence of any such wins since – the Parkhead denizens unable to celebrate defeating a rival in the environment across seven subsequent evenings – couldn’t be laid at his door. Of course, only the encouragement-offering 3-0 loss to current holders Real Madrid last month is in that bracket. A result that gave way to a creditable 1-1 draw against Shakhtar Donetsk and last week’s 3-1 reverse in Leipzig that has left Celtic with one point before they host the Germans and Ukrainians in their next two Group A outings. And at a crossroads in their bid to progress to the latter stages. This would likely be assured were they to claim full points from these home confrontations, while anything less would leave them open to all other possibilities.




    A wholly admirable Postecoglou trait is that his pre-match media duties for this week’s pivotal Champions League fixture represented one of the few occasions in his 15-month tenure he shirked any onus in a Celtic context. And he certainly won’t do that should Leipzig prove too strong for his team again. Only with one proviso, though. He was left exasperated by feeling his players became inhibited by thoughts of “self preservation” after drawing level in Germany. And he simply cannot countenance a similar scenario against Marco Rose’s men a second time around.


    It’s human nature, particularly with the group we have,” he said. “They’re still experiencing something new. It’s by trying to show them that they have protection if things go wrong. I’ll take the responsibility for it. Don’t fear. It’s only human nature that, playing away from home in a Champions League game and you’ve equalised, you feel like you are really in the game. You’ll tighten up a little bit and think ‘Jeez, a point in Leipzig would be brilliant, we don’t want to give away this point. Instead of passing forward, maybe I’ll just hit the safe pass. Instead of making a run forward, maybe I’ll just sit here in case we lose the ball.’ So, that’s all the process. It’s just human nature. It’s about trying to show the players and get them to understand that’s not the way we’ve set up to play, it’s not going to help us in our endeavour to be successful. And if it does go wrong in doing what I want them to do then I’ll take responsibility.

    “If you want to improve, if you want to get better, you’ve got to get out of that sort of insecurity you have about anything and be bold in your approach. That’s my view, anyway. Others will have a different view. But that’s kind of my view why we play our kind of football. It’s why we take the approach we do. It’s why I sign the players I have and put the team together the way I have because it’s designed to play this kind of football. If I had a different approach and we were set up a bit more defensively structured, I’d have different players in there and we’d play a different way. So, it doesn’t suit us anyway.”



    The ‘fortress Celtic Park’ baloney cranked up for such nights – where the home team have failed even to score in eight of their past 11 Champions League games – can be discarded in looking for reasons as to why Postecoglou’s team can get with his programme fully. However, the very dynamics of playing in the hyped-up arena can suit his team’s purposes since they practically ensure the Celtic players won’t go into their shells. The human nature element here is for that not to happen.

    “Yes, I think so. Absolutely that’s the case,” he said. “Even the first game against Real, I think if Callum [McGregor]’s strike goes in instead of hitting the post, I don’t think you would’ve seen us going into our shell – even at 1-0 up against Real. I think, with the crowd behind them and being at home, that would’ve encouraged you. But, again, we’ve got to experience all these things. The [Leipzig game] was the first time we’ve been away from home [in the Champions League] and got ourselves back into the game. It was kind of the opposite against Shakhtar, we really went for it at the end and we should’ve got a winner. But we were going for it, we weren’t settling for a point. But again it’s another level up. So for me it’s just part of the journey we’re on, part of the process we’ve got to go through.”