Cheating Bastards or an Anomaly (Celtic Penalty Stats Vs Other Teams)

Could have stopped at the thread title.

Cheating *.

Appreciate the analysis though ILTC.

 

Shocking but to see it, 17 penalties more than us in the League in the last 5 years when we have won the League 4 of those 5 seasons and are top again.

Despite being by far the best team in our League over that time we get less penalties than all the other top teams in their Leagues even teams like Atletico, Man Utd, Chelsea, Leipzig, Sporting Lisbon, Monaco, Lyon, AC Milan, Feyenoord all get way more penalties than us in their Leagues in addition to all the other European teams above.

Satistically we stand out like a sore thumb as one of the most dominant teams by far in those Leagues but we get penalties the equavalent of the 7th best team in the League.

We should be the Real Madrid, Man City, Juventus, PSG, Porto or Ajax of our League who all average a penalty every about 4 games but we are near 7 games a penalty yet the huns are 4 games.

 

Is there one that can be done to show card stats?

 

It's not even the number of penalties, it's the timing of them, we'll get given one when we're cruising a game by 2+ goals, the first half of last season especially the huns were always getting a penalty (or red card) when they were toiling for a draw or a goal down, it was so blatantly obvious to everyone the refs were pulling their * out of the fire.

I mind putting money on a few games in-play for them to get a red or penalty any time they dropped a goal and went on bet365 to do it again one day and the next card/penalty option simply wasn't there for me on their game. You know it's * when the bookies are protecting themselves, must have been some amount of people taking money off them.

 

53 PSG
49 AC Milan
48 Juventus
48 Real Madrid
47 Ajax
47 Inter
45 Rangers
45 Roma
44 Lyon
44 Man Utd
42 AZ Alkmaar
42 Man City
42 Monaco
40 Napoli
39 Leipzig
39 Liverpool
39 Porto
38 Atalanta
38 Marseille
37 Aberdeen
37 PSV
35 Barcelona
35 Chelsea
35 Lille
34 Bayern
34 Feyenoord
33 Sporting Lisbon
30 Dortmund
29 Atletico
28 Benfica
28 Celtic

Thats us compared to others who have finished Top 2/3 in their League from 2017/2018 to now.

Spanish, English and Italian teams have played about 8 games more than us, German and Portuguese have played about 12 less, French have played about the same and Dutch have played about 20 less.

 

Need to dive even deeper to show the true extent.

How many penalties when down/drawing or up by only 1 vs others. It'll be some stat when sevco will still have nearly the same amount of penalties when we suddenly will have about 1/4 of them.

 

It really is quite telling that we are only mid table in that considering we have at least 60% possession and often way more in our domestic games.

The only league across most of the bigger leagues in Europe where the dominant team has less penalties than the second placed team and not just less significantly less.
Over a 38 game season we can only expect 5-6 penalties where as they get 8-9.

What else would be interesting is when they are awarded. The penalties we got last year often came when we were clear by at least 2 goals in games often more and it would have had a marginal impact on the game.

You suspect it would be stats like this but it really lays it bare. Nick Walsh is definitely one for the watching he almost always gives them a penalty.

 

When doing research for yesterday's game, was looking back at the last time Celtic & St J played back in April, the 7-0 win. That game was the last time in all competitions that Celtic were awarded a spot kick.

19 games ago and counting...

Not that Celtic have needed to rely upon penalties, but you would think at some point, considering how we tend to dominate possession, play attacking football etc, that the law of averages would suggest somewhere along the way one foul committed in the box would've been worth the ref pointing to the spot. But nope. Nade. Zip. Zilch. Even yesterday, when GG was brought down inside the box etc... But apparently not.

By contrast, Sevco have been awarded 7 in that same time period (but in 25 games - the 6 extra games being the EL Cup Final, Sc Cup Final & 4 CL Qualifiers), which is at an average of a pen every 3.57 games.

Since Sevco returned to the Premiership in 2016/17, only twice has Celtic benefitted from more penalties than Sevco, and that was that was that 2016/17 'Invincibles' season, where the Hoops had 14 to Sevco's 7, and the following 2017/18 season, where Celtic were awarded 9 to Sevco's 8 - virtually the same.

Every season since it has been in Sevco's favour, sometimes narrowly, but in the last few seasons far more pronounced.

But yeah, there is a very distinct trend, especially from 20/21 onwards compared to the couple of seasons before that...

Last season (2021/22):
Overall (incl Europe), Sevco were award 18 in total & Celtic were awarded 12 in total.
In domestic (L, LC, SC) competition, Sevco were awarded 14 in total, while the Hoops were awarded 8 in total.

In the League alone...
Sevco were awarded 10.

8 of those when the scores were level OR Sevco trailing.​

Celtic were awarded 7.

2 of those when scores were level. All others when already leading, incl 3 when at least 4-0 up at the time. ​

2020/21
Overall

Sevco 21 Celtic 9​

Domestic

Sevco 14 Celtic 8​

2019/20* (shortened season)
Overall

Sevco 10 Celtic 9​

Domestic

Sevco 6 Celtic 6​

2018/19
Overall

Sevco 17 Celtic 13​

Domestic

Sevco 14 Celtic 11
​

2017/18
Overall

Sevco 8 Celtic 9​

7 of Sevco's 8 spotkicks were in the League. Just 3 for Celtic in the league that season.


Overall, since Jan 1 2020...

Overall

Sevco 45 Celtic 25​

Domestic

Sevco 32 Celtic 19

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All in all, that is one * of a descrepancy.

 

This is just in the League from last season (21/22)...

Sevco were awarded 10. ​

8 of those when the scores were level OR Sevco trailing.

Celtic were awarded 7. ​

2 of those when scores were level. All others when already leading, incl 3 when at least 4-0 up at the time.

 

Our position in the table is enough to show the cheating… and how we are judged differently.

Attacking teams get more penalties.. defensive ones don’t.

If you look at the top then you expect Barca, RM, Mancys etc to be there… and can argue the Huns would be somewhere in there… but they’d be 5th if you put them in that ‘other leagues’ chart and sorted it in order (which would read better) . Never merited in a million years…

… Celtic are genuinely one of the most stacking teams in Europe… and are 7th in our own league… we wouldn’t even register on that European one.

fkkn joke country

 

Says it all. Farcical..

Seen that penalty of their's last night. Lol. Wee Walsh at it again. How many joke decisions has he given and all for them. Never ever against..

 

Not suprised.

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Colak is a cheating *. Tries to fall at every opportunity even without any contact. Hun strikers are well coached in the art of cheating.

 

Wow. That's 8 games where the ref has influenced them to gain points. I bet watching all 8 vs the 2 we get, the majority would be soft/debatable/never a * penalty when ours would be the ones the ref would find impossible to ignore.

Yet some still think we as a fan base are paranoid.

 

It's been corrupt as long as I can remember. It'll be interesting to see how it goes once VAR starts getting used although it will no doubt be some cheating orange * in charge of that as well.

 

This is why I'm all for us getting out of this league. Hopefully that anti UEFA business case (restriction of freedom of market) comes in soon and breaks the monopoly.

 

I would love to see a video of every penalty claim that us and Sevco have had for the past few years. In chronological order with the scores at the time showing too.

 

Rangers are getting away with murder this season. They are constantly getting decisions when they are struggling.