Aaron Mooy

No I'm saying if Rogic couldn't shift the dial (and clearly he hasn't or we wouldn't be having this convo) then Mooy sure as * won't. To suggest otherwise is daft.

 

It’s not an Aussie thing on it’s own like it’s being reported, also rewriting history on Viduka, who everybody was * buzzing with.

If we signed Tim Cahill at his peak do you think people would complain because he’s an Aussie? If we signed him at 36 do you think people would complain?

 

I keep saying that I bore myself on this topic which has been discussed ad nauseum on here...

The point I've always made is that no-one who is a genuine Celt would suggest ANY player as worthy of the team unless they genuinely believed they would improve the team.

What people need to understand is that those of us who live in Australia and watch the A League mainly see those games and the players that play in them. We also avidly watch the NT. Only the very best handful from that lot are ever mentioned on here as potentially worthy of the Hoops.

And yet there is constant derision from certain quarters despite the fact that every Australian in recent memory has done the business for Celtic. Rogic was bagged early... Ange was bagged early... now Abernathy Mooy is getting bagged and that's what I (and my compatriots) don't get.

With Mooy's resume, there's no way he'd be bagged if he was German, French or English.

Now for * sake play well Arbuckle Mooy or you'll make me look an idiot!

 

He definitely would be mate, Freddie Ljunberg was, Juninho was, Carlton Cole was, Ian Wright was. It’s guys that are viewed as past there peak. In the case of Ljungberg and Mooy both guys playing in a League last couple of years viewed as a league that guys go to top up there pensions when they’ve mentally checked out….

Honestly, I’m very happy with this signing but I get the hesitation on it. It’s not because he’s an Aussie.


Nice of you to leave out Arzani on the list of recent Australian’s that was too good for the SPFL and would have ripped it up

Rogic took about 3 years to get up to speed as well, which is ok he came in as a youngster and had some injuries early on, absolute testament to his mental strength on top of his ability that he made it.

The thing is, you seem to think this is people picking on Aussie’s. What you’ve yet to realise is we’ve just got a load of arrogant * in our fanbase that think we’re too good for a load of players and will later swear down dead they were always on board with them. Only need to look at my decidedly un-Aussie namesake to see that in another form.

 

I didn't include Arzani because 20 minutes doesn't really cut it as a Celt - even though impartial judges said he looked good in those 20 mins.

It was actually quite tragic what happened to him. He's never come good from that ACL.

 

Absolute nonsense!!!

James Mccarthy is a Scottish born/Irish Catholic Celtic supporter with a superior resume to Mooy and he was written off when he signed too and as it turns out rightfully so.

Absolutely * all to do with nationality it's about their ability to improve the team.

A 32 year old mooy mite and he mite not but fans are right to question it and suggest that maybe we should be doing better business than him

 

Alot of aussie bhoys in here counting chickens and what not.

Going by his dreadful cameo appearance there, hes absolutely nowhere near up to speed to be featuring.

It could be months before we see a filly fit Mooy, and honestly I dont wanna see him starting, as would mean someone either currently in the squad or a new signing, hasnt coveted the position.

Best of luck to the fella and I hope it works out obviously, but cant see where the blinding optimism about Mooy reinventing the wheel is coming from.
Hes 32. Not 22.
He either makes an impact this year or not at all.

 

Don’t know what people were seeing to call that cameo dreadful. He misplaced one pass.

 

People talk * on football forum shocker...he played 10 minutes after probably one training session with the team. Ha

Its going to be like this no matter how he plays.. you can already see posters here are not happy he signed and no matter what he does they wont change their opinion... they are not willing to give him a chance.. some will just * moan for the sake of moaning

I remember Kyogo being wrote off on here after 20 minutes against hearts on his debut

Been guilty myself on occasion... Ralston for one

 

Agree he's miles off it fitness wise, but he's been underestimated pretty much everywhere he's gone in Britain and then totally turned the mockers around. Based on what he showed against Peru he's still capable of dominating high quality midfields - much higher quality than what'll he mostly encounter in the SPL. Mind you, ECL midfields will be stronger than Peru.

Doubt we'll even see him on the bench for a month or so.

 

With mooy not up to fitness and guchi injured then McCarthy is only a injury away from being in the team how * depressing is that .
We need to sign another midfielder with a bit of quality before we play in the champions League.

 

Up the provos lad

 

I had Mooy play for my team the Western Sydney Wanderers. He is a good solid professional and will do a great job at Celtic. When he was at Melbourne City he probably played the best football of his career, absolutely unplayable, no one could cover him or get near him. Give him a chance. he works hard, is smart between the ears and can play good techincal football.

 

With a few weeks of training under him I suspect he'll become the go-to player to rotate with McGregor, plus play the occasional other role in midfield. As a comparison to McGregor, I'd say he is less mobile than McGregor but has a better passing range and is therefore slightly more suited to a bit further up the park. He may also become the default set piece taker when on the field.

The ability to be able to slot somebody else into that position and not have a noticeable drop in performance will be a significant improvement on last season, however I think it will possibly not be appreciated by many until later in the season or when some injuries start being picked up.

 

He looked Mccarthy levels of slow. Hopefully that's just due to not being match for but for me thats what stood out and was my biggest concern

 

Comparing Mooy and McCarthy, as people keep doing, is wrong on every level. Besides their age, everything about them is completely different.

Take the fact for eg that McCarthy is nowhere near the Irish NT's set up, and has not been for many years, while Mooy is Australia's most important player. McCarthy has a long history of injuries, Mooy does not and has a history of keeping his body in top form. Etc etc.

Besides their age, there is no other similarity between the two, so I don't know why McCarthy is constantly used as the example, its a weak comparison and automatically shows that somebody knows * about Mooy.

 

He needs to be given time to get his fitness up to speed before we have any idea how he will turn out. 32 is by no means past it in the modern era. Ange had Tam fit for playing for 90mins last season which some would say was close to miraculous. So I'm sure getting Mooy match fit will be a piece of cake.

 

You completely missed the point I was making however if you want to make a comparison... the comparison is neither look good enough for Celtic

 

I don't think we have a big enough sample size to declare if Mooy is good enough for Celtic yet. Though his lack of match fitness pretty much guarantees it'll take him a bit of time to get up to speed with the rest of the squad. It's a long season though, so he'll have a chance to contribute.

 

You base mooy not being good enough after one 15 minute cameo after training once give him a chance ffs. Lots of players have been * in 15 minute cameos