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Celtic to face Class Action over Boy's Club abuse

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Bob Loblaw, Oct 5, 2021.

Discuss Celtic to face Class Action over Boy's Club abuse in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Hammy89 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Yet you get twats on here claiming 'where's the evidence?' or hiding behind the separate entity.

    * that, we were separate entities when these cases came to light.

    We have a moral responsibility and shirking away from that is * disgusting.
     
  2. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Effectively, isn't the same as actually btw.

    Now, I'm no disputing the fact that it was an unofficial link up with BC and Celtic, no * is disputing that - but what is being disputed legally is Celtic's legal accountability since it's an action that has been taken legally against Celtic - yes?

    The question that's being asked, and not answered is to what extent are Celtic liable.
     
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    I'm not sure any one of us really knows who knew what way back then. Bearing in mind none of the victims had come forward.

    If its the case the board have turned a blind eye or, even worse, allowed it to happen then they should be getting investigated.
     
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  4. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Two names who should be looked at right away considering close friendship/ties with Torbett, either through social or business (ties to the Trophy Centre business ran by Torbett) and see exactly if they had any involvement in "facilitating" or enabling these * to have done what they did.
     
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  5. Celticbhoy97

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    Matter will be settled out of courts. Cant imagine it will a massive settlement as there is no way in proving how complicit we were in ongoings.

    But the quicker this is put to bed the better.
     
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    The links between Kevin Kelly,
    Torbett and the trophy centre are well known. If this has been allowed to happen or has happened bcoz people in power allowed Totbett in and then back into the club (which to be honest is extremely likely) then finger should be getting pointed firmly towards Kelly.

    From current board point of view (as much as I despise them) I struggle to see why they should be held accountable for actions of a corrupt board almost 40 years ago.

    Also surely the justice these people seek is the abusers behind bars and then those who allowed it to happen also charged. I fail to see what justice there is in money.

    Its just a personal opinion but if it was me in that situation I don't think money would take away the horror of it, seeing the beasts rot in jail would be the justice I'd be wanting but easy to say when iv never been in that position.
     
  7. Westlondonscot Gold Member Gold Member

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    This is something I'd rather was done but isn't Jack McGinn and any Kelly's involved then dead?
    A big problem is at what point does a person become responsible then change to the company they work for being responsible? I don't know personally but that would be a big part of all of this.
    I agree with what others have said, the club could have handled this better. Made donations to help those dealing with child abuse.
     
  8. Mr. Slippyfist

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    McGinn is deceased, Kelly is not.
     
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    Definitely think terrible what happened, and some compensation must be made, what can be worrying in these situations is people get greedy when money’s involved, like when a famous Hollywood person gets done for sexual harassment and the person gets compensated about another 30 people jump on the bandwagon saying they abused them aswell. , some this can be because they were to scared to be the first but a lot of them just looking for easy money, if that happens with ex boys club Mibee hit on hard times, how do they actually prove who’s actually telling the truth
     
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  10. We named the dog Indiana Gold Member Gold Member

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    I'm sure Jack mcginn still alive. Lives in Dumbarton.
     
  11. Creativecelt Gold Member Gold Member

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    Is there a case that the club goes after Kelly for damages, if links are proven?
     
  12. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Is he? * coulda swore he was deed a few year ago...
     
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    Still goes walking in the local park, my maws seen him there fairly recently. His wife died moons ago though.
     
  14. Mr. Slippyfist

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    * knows mate, it's all starting to get far too vomit-inducing for me.

    I utterly, utterly detest peados! As a Father, it's the single most lowest form of lifeform on this planet - I've no interest in the poor me psychoanaytical pish to defend these * evil parasitic * - every single last one of them should be pulled into a room and burned alive.
     
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    Aye he’s still alive, John McGinn Steven, Paul’s grandfather, Michael Kelly is still alive but his dad’s well deid
     
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    Effectively enough to allow us to go to court about it.

    I think we owe these boys compensation. You don't, or don't see why we should legally.

    I can't be arsed to go round in circles.
     
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    I grew up around this time. Knew various school mates that played for the boys club. Hopefully none of them affected by this, although that's not a given.

    Putting aside the legal technicalities the boys club and Celtic where seen as one and the same from their and everyone else I knews' perspective. In all honesty if it wasn't for this shitfest I wouldn't even have thought to question it.

    I like to think Celtic and their fans hold themselves to a high standard. In this we have touched and maintained the absolute lowest, most harmful, shameful standard possible. Legally defensible or not.

    Celtic could and should have done so much more, so much earlier in this matter. * anyone involved in setting, deciding, or defending that standard in a matter involving the rape of children.
     
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    The only problem I have is the support of loyalism jumping on it that's it's them Catholics,we told you so, when I'm fact it more serious to the actual victims
     
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  19. Mr. Slippyfist

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    I cannie be arsed asking you any more questions anyways, considering you clearly don’t have the resources to respond with an educated answer.
     
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    Your morals are good mate, and yes I agree that paedos are the scum of the earth, think everyone on this forum thinks the same,you believe we have a moral responsibility which to an extent I do aswell but some people have a few it’s a separate entity that’s up to them

    maybe someone will know better than me obviously Jimmy saville worked for radio 1 and the BBC and he died before a lot of people spoke out, obviously people covered up for him but the bbc and radio 1 said they had no files on him to expect anything and weren’t aware of any wrongdoing s and wouldn’t be liable to pay for his victim s , whether they’re lying or not no one will ever really know

    Hope people like torbett rot in * but these people are sneaky creepy devious very convincing characters and the world was a different place, every youngster over 5 knows what a paedo is, as a young boy growing up I can’t ever remember hearing the word, was people that were weirdo s that maw n dad told me to be wary of but don’t mind hearing words like nonce and paedo, people saying the Kelly s knew, Jack mcginn knew, etc etc, no one knows that for sure and as someone said it’s pretty big allegations to make
     
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